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An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by grishka »

testfoobar wrote: post #98
RandomWorker wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here, it’s like a freaky experience. I run mostly from the browser but have a couple of things going at the same time. One thing I noticed is the blazing fast typing on the Mac. There is an ever so small lag on windows in perceptible when using it. But, when you type on the Mac you notice it, and the brain just feels good using it. I have no idea if this is a real thing, but it’s similar with scrolling, you touc…

Typing lag is such a sad result of all our modern computing abstractions. https://www.extremetech.com/computing/261148-modern-computer...

Hm. I've always thought it was more of a result of our current display technology? Digital displays buffer an entire frame before they display it. Sometimes several frames. And the refresh rate is usually 60 Hz so each buffered frame adds a delay of 16 ms. CRTs on the other hand have basically zero latency because the signal coming in directly controls the intensity of the beam as it draws the picture.

Anyway, is it any better on displays that have a higher refresh rate? I feel like it should make a substantial difference.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by alienalp »

jmkni wrote: post #25

Pre M1, I've always preferred a PC. When I'm using a laptop, especially doing real work, they heat up, the fans go crazy, the laptop is hot to the touch and everything slows down. It almost makes you anxious. You're wondering if it's about to crash or go on fire. I've always kept a Desktop PC on the go for this reason, a well cooled desktop just doesn't have these issues. With a laptop, I always feel like I'm comprom…

M1 mac is also my first Apple product. And now i bought magic mouse 2 and fuck Apple. It is like laggy.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by gambiting »

lukevp wrote: post #65
RandomWorker wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here, it’s like a freaky experience. I run mostly from the browser but have a couple of things going at the same time. One thing I noticed is the blazing fast typing on the Mac. There is an ever so small lag on windows in perceptible when using it. But, when you type on the Mac you notice it, and the brain just feels good using it. I have no idea if this is a real thing, but it’s similar with scrolling, you touc…

One of the reasons iOS feels smoother than Android is because the render loop of the OS is decoupled from the app. The apps aren’t allowed to introduce jank, so if you’re scrolling a webpage and stuff is loading simultaneously, iOS will be way smoother. I think this is also why they can have such low latency on inputs, for example with the Apple Pencil which is much lower latency than the surface pen or the android s…

I wonder what made apple give the iPad Pro such an awful screen though, considering all the software optimisations that they do. I got the M1 iPad a month ago, and the screen has absolutely horrendous ghosting issues, like, what is this? An LCD from 2001? Just open the settings app, and quickly scroll the options up and down - white text on the black background leaves such a visible smudge, it bothers me massively when scrolling through websites or apps in dark mode, it honestly doesn't feel like an apple product to me. Honestly haven't seen this issue on any screen in the past 10 years, and here this brand new(and very expensive) iPad with 120Hz screen has something that looks like 50-100ms gray to gray refresh time.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by Retr0id »

Rd6n6 wrote: post #115
jmkni wrote: post #25

Pre M1, I've always preferred a PC. When I'm using a laptop, especially doing real work, they heat up, the fans go crazy, the laptop is hot to the touch and everything slows down. It almost makes you anxious. You're wondering if it's about to crash or go on fire. I've always kept a Desktop PC on the go for this reason, a well cooled desktop just doesn't have these issues. With a laptop, I always feel like I'm comprom…

I just looked up some benchmarks. Apparently a m1 is 2-4x faster at many tasks than my wife’s gaming desktop from 5 years ago. It’s comparable in many benchmarks to my ryzen cpu as well? What’s the catch?

The only real catch is that you're currently limited to only 16GB of RAM.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by kccoder »

hackathonguy wrote: post #32

Wondering if it's just me: I bought an M1 MacBook Air with 8GB of RAM, based on reports saying that RAM management is much more effective than with Intel CPUs. Ever since, I'm really struggling with load management. I typically have Chrome open with 20-30 tabs, plus a couple of Electron apps (Notion, Slack, Google Calendar), and my MacBook frequently slows down to a crawl or gets stuck entirely. Simple commands - "cl…

The 8GB M1 I bought was constantly fighting the limited RAM, so I exchanged it for a 16GB model, which has been perfect. For those looking, the MicroCenter near me has 16GB MacBook Air models available at a discount, other MicroCenter locations might have the same.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by Tsiklon »

ryanSrich wrote: post #119
hackathonguy wrote: post #32

Wondering if it's just me: I bought an M1 MacBook Air with 8GB of RAM, based on reports saying that RAM management is much more effective than with Intel CPUs. Ever since, I'm really struggling with load management. I typically have Chrome open with 20-30 tabs, plus a couple of Electron apps (Notion, Slack, Google Calendar), and my MacBook frequently slows down to a crawl or gets stuck entirely. Simple commands - "cl…

Can anyone explain to me the psychology of having 30 tabs open? Why not just bookmark the URLs to an ephemeral folder or something? Having more than 10 tabs open is beyond stressful for me, and honestly I can’t see how having more open would make anyone more productive. Really curious to learn about other workflows and excessive tab use is one I’m morbidly curious about.

Personally on my phone and work computer I keep legion number of tabs open. On my phone, it’s because using bookmarks is slower than opening the tab menu. Plus the OS will swap out tabs that haven’t been used in a while

With a work perspective in mind I have one window set up per task, I use tree style tabs on Firefox, and at a glance I can see the complete context of a task I’m researching, just from the decision tree the tab branches show. Every potentially interesting link that’ll help me with my task gets opened on a branch below the parent, then reviewed and filtered. This is tremendously useful when it comes to writing up documentation or updating tickets and the like.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by barrkel »

ryanSrich wrote: post #119
hackathonguy wrote: post #32

Wondering if it's just me: I bought an M1 MacBook Air with 8GB of RAM, based on reports saying that RAM management is much more effective than with Intel CPUs. Ever since, I'm really struggling with load management. I typically have Chrome open with 20-30 tabs, plus a couple of Electron apps (Notion, Slack, Google Calendar), and my MacBook frequently slows down to a crawl or gets stuck entirely. Simple commands - "cl…

Can anyone explain to me the psychology of having 30 tabs open? Why not just bookmark the URLs to an ephemeral folder or something? Having more than 10 tabs open is beyond stressful for me, and honestly I can’t see how having more open would make anyone more productive. Really curious to learn about other workflows and excessive tab use is one I’m morbidly curious about.

Bookmarks are like a bin things get thrown into and completely forgotten about. I open a bookmark maybe once a week, and then it's usually for something like accessing the wifi router, or a bookmarklet for adapting a web site.

Tabs are like a TODO list. If something needs to have attention paid to it, and then dismissed, I open a tab for it.

(Of course, I use Firefox & Tree Style Tabs. I find Chrome almost unusable due to its tabbing idiom.)

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by zitterbewegung »

philistine wrote: post #113
zitterbewegung wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember using hard disk drive sounds for disk usage and or capacitor noises to debug issues. But, I really like the MacBook Air M1 because its so quiet and it helps me concentrate much better and if you are talking to others or recording a talk it is silent. The other thing is that it has no moving parts so it should be very durable.

I use one too and there are still some moving parts. The keyboard keys, the speakers, the display hinge and the Taptic Engine. Those are the parts I'm looking at intently as the ones that will fail on me, especially the hinge.

The most likely thing to break on a computer is the fan itself. Apple has revised the display hinge and the keys have been redesigned. I don't know of any reports of the Speakers breaking or a Taptic Engine (other than people using Bootcamp on Intel MacBook Pros but that isn't an option anymore) but since there is no long term data on all of those components the only thing that I would question would be the redesigned hinge and the keyboard.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by shrimpx »

The temperature of the laptop is an accurate enough replacement for fan noise (if you use it normally, not in clamshell mode). I notice that I've become far more sensitive to subtle temperature changes in my M1 than I used to be in prior fan-cooled laptops. Probably because the fan tends to come on before the machine heats up to the touch, so temperature was a weak, secondary cue.
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