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Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Overall I agree with your comments. > Switch strains - tends to be more common in Indicas with a higher than normal CBD There is no scientific evidence backing up any claims about the effects of indica vs sativa, and no way to know which strain you're actually getting, even from dispensaries. They tend to be labeled according to the subjective experience of the person deciding how to label them. It's as meaningless a…

>There is no scientific evidence backing up any claims about the effects of indica vs sativa, and no way to know which strain you're actually getting, even from dispensaries. Even if it's the same strain cloned from the previous crop it can be different in THC/CBD content depending on growing conditions and a number of things. Even the harvest date, the drying and the curing process will affect the final product.

I agree that there are different chemical constituents in different strains, that seem to--at least anecdotally--cause different subjective effects. I specifically take exception to the indica-vs-sativa claims, which appear to be complete nonsense, and aren't backed up by any science.

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Have you been diagnosed with ADHD? As to the productivity are you certain that you are more productive and not just feeling more productive? That's a pretty common thing with weed, it causes the brain to release dopamine which it normally does in response to you being productive.

ADHD wasn't a thing when I was a child. Does weed help with that? I've heard a lot of treating this condition with what is essentially legal amphetamines which sounds horrible to me. It's a shame, though not surprising in the least, that the good, cheap stuff is illegal in most of the world.

It can help with ADHD.

As far as the amphetamines, dosage, ROU and brain chemistry are everything. A 10mg Adderall is not the same thing as smoking 100mg of meth.

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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This coincides with the Dryas impact era - there seems to be a lot of cultural advances, settlements, and other artifacts that pop up around that time. It seems very plausible to me that many of the discoveries aren't the first of their kind, but the first reimplementation after humans began to rebuild. The Dryas impact is a fascinating event - if validated, it has the potential to shake up a lot of the currently acc…

I love reading about this. I hope one day we will understand what happened back then.

In Hawaiian mythology, there is a creation chant[1] that includes names of the purported parents of 800 generations; after those 800 generations, there is an interesting interim passage describing an event:

Line 1530: "Born was Polaʻa/ Born was rough weather, born the current/ Born the roaring, advancing, and receding of waves, the rumbling sound, the earthquake/ The sea rages, rises over the beach/ Rises silently to the inhabited places/ Rises gradually up over the land/"

It's notable because the previous 800 lines are nothing but names of husband and wife; it must have been a big event to get mentioned as such. I'm sure there are other similar stories in the oral tradition. I wonder if anyone has ever compared them all. I hope one day more geological and archeological evidence can connect all these threads.

[1]http://www.ulukau.org/elib/cgi-bin/library?e=d-0beckwit2-000...

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Ironic that the penalty for cannabis possession goes up to death now in the place where it was first domesticated. Death for having a plant that makes people feel good and happy. Humans are weird. This study is really neat because as the article says the consensus was always Central Asia for the birthplace of cannabis and now we learn that it is East Asia.

I'm all for legalization of marijuana but we can do better than the naïve and shallow argument of "it's a plant so it's good for me". Opium and Salvia? Poison berries and cocaine?

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Ironic that the penalty for cannabis possession goes up to death now in the place where it was first domesticated. Death for having a plant that makes people feel good and happy. Humans are weird. This study is really neat because as the article says the consensus was always Central Asia for the birthplace of cannabis and now we learn that it is East Asia.

Death penalty for "possession"? Did you mean trafficking? Here [1] it says,

> according to the Law on Public Security Administration Punishments, marijuana smokers shall be detained for 10 to 15 days and fined a maximum of 2,000 yuan.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_China#Legal_status

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Since this is the first cannabis topic I've seen on HN, I have lots of questions/ideas/problems I want to share. I'm going to post them in no particular order. Maybe someone has a solution >I like weed as a productive drug, it's stronger than caffeine for me, but I develop tolerance and addiction quickly. Any solution to the tolerance problem? Quitting/breaks is obvious. >Is investing in weed stocks encouraging drug…

Talk to a doctor.

Cannabis is complicated and we don’t yet have much research with humans due to Federal policy in the US.

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Smoked weed every day for 10 years. >I like weed as a productive drug, it's stronger than caffeine for me, but I develop tolerance and addiction quickly. Any solution to the tolerance problem? Quitting/breaks is obvious. Switch strains frequently, try to find stuff far from the other. >Is investing in weed stocks encouraging drug addiction/use? Is it ethical to promote drug use? No, but also investing in weed stocks…

"If you have a Drs note, there isn't much they can do." Many jobs require passing drug tests as a condition of employment. It would be interesting to hear if anyone has challenged such tests by arguing their cannabis use was a medical necessity.

I worked with two different people that tried that. First guy crashed a forklift and was told he couldn't operate heavy machinery while taking any kind of depressant medication, and the second one was an armed security guard who tried explaining that his paranoid behavior was from switching cannabis strains. Under federal law it's a felony to own or possess a firearm while a user of cannabis, and the court cases so far have not been friendly to medical users.

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Ironic that the penalty for cannabis possession goes up to death now in the place where it was first domesticated. Death for having a plant that makes people feel good and happy. Humans are weird. This study is really neat because as the article says the consensus was always Central Asia for the birthplace of cannabis and now we learn that it is East Asia.

I'm all for legalization of marijuana but we can do better than the naïve and shallow argument of "it's a plant so it's good for me". Opium and Salvia? Poison berries and cocaine?

The person you're responding too seems to have gone out of their way to specify what effects it has, not just that it's a plant.

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Ironic that the penalty for cannabis possession goes up to death now in the place where it was first domesticated. Death for having a plant that makes people feel good and happy. Humans are weird. This study is really neat because as the article says the consensus was always Central Asia for the birthplace of cannabis and now we learn that it is East Asia.

Death penalty for "possession"? Did you mean trafficking? Here [1] it says, > according to the Law on Public Security Administration Punishments, marijuana smokers shall be detained for 10 to 15 days and fined a maximum of 2,000 yuan. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_China#Legal_status

I just meant possessing something in the normal sense not the legal sense. I don’t think death is a good penalty for something as benign as marijuana.
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