Private Israeli spyware used to hack cellphones of journalists, activists

Post by squarefoot » Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 5:46 PM UTC

ackbar03 wrote: post #13

Aren't these private hacking companies breaking the law though? Does anyone know why no one has sued them or arrested them or something? From what I understand in most cases, any attempts to reverse engineer or exploit any system is against terms of service with the offender held liable. Some teenager who comes up with a game hack can be slapped with a massive fine, but these hacking companies aren't even breaking th…

Post by slg » Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 5:54 PM UTC

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #10

pmoriarty wrote: post #2

I hate to say it, but if what you're communicating could risk your life or that of someone else you might want to avoid using computers to communicate it altogether. Old-school techniques such as physically smuggling microdots[1] seem much safer than relying on any computer technology, which can always be hacked. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microdot

I think if you sell an exploit and it's used in a crime you should be held accountable as if you sold a weapon to an enemy.

Post by dogma1138 » Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 6:00 PM UTC

dogorman wrote: post #24

ackbar03 wrote: post #13

Aren't these private hacking companies breaking the law though? Does anyone know why no one has sued them or arrested them or something? From what I understand in most cases, any attempts to reverse engineer or exploit any system is against terms of service with the offender held liable. Some teenager who comes up with a game hack can be slapped with a massive fine, but these hacking companies aren't even breaking th…

> Aren't these private hacking companies breaking the law though? Like Russia, Israel doesn't seem to give a damn when criminal enterprises operating in their borders victimize people in other countries. This shit has been going on for years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Download_Valley

Post by DangitBobby » Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 6:01 PM UTC

slg wrote: post #23

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think if you sell an exploit and it's used in a crime you should be held accountable as if you sold a weapon to an enemy.

Would you want people who develop encryption algorithms held accountable if those algorithms are used to hide illegal activities?

Post by dogorman » Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 6:03 PM UTC

dogma1138 wrote: post #25

dogorman wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Aren't these private hacking companies breaking the law though? Like Russia, Israel doesn't seem to give a damn when criminal enterprises operating in their borders victimize people in other countries. This shit has been going on for years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Download_Valley

Gamma Group, Hacking Team and a plethora of other European companies were/are in the same business.