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Texans can carry handguns without a license or training starting Sept. 1

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Re: Texans can carry handguns without a license or training starting Sept. 1

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Post by BrianOnHN »

Grakel wrote: post #7

Congratulations to Texas for joining the more than 20 states respecting both the natural right to arms and the Constitution's regulation on government interference with it. I wish they had enumerated many more specific rights not to infringe, but some of the most violated today were considered too obvious to merit specific attention. We're seeing a huge surge for protecting gun rights on the local and state levels, n…

Yeah, it's the same wave of people pushing "contraversal" voting laws at that level. Really something to be proud of /s

Re: Texans can carry handguns without a license or training starting Sept. 1

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Post by 13415 »

Tade0 wrote: post #8
xwdv wrote: post #3

Why would Hackernews find this relevant?

Perhaps because it sounds so foreign to the rest of the world that it's automatically interesting.

Well, the one who draws faster wins. I'd expect nothing less from Texas.

Re: Texans can carry handguns without a license or training starting Sept. 1

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Post by jandrewrogers »

It should be pointed out that some other States have always operated this way with no discernible impact. The permitting process in most States is almost entirely pro forma -- if you can legally own a firearm then there generally isn't cause to deny a permit. In terms of increasing safety, permitting is largely a no-op.

Re: Texans can carry handguns without a license or training starting Sept. 1

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Post by herodotus »

mehphp wrote: post #6

I thought this was a terrible idea until I realized that other states are already doing it without any problems.

No problems? Look at the science. https://www.pnas.org/content/117/26/14906 "In a hypothetical situation in which there are 39,000 firearms deaths nationally under the permissive combination of these three laws, we expect 4,475 (80% CI, 1,761 to 6,949) more deaths nationally than under the restrictive combination of these laws."

Re: Texans can carry handguns without a license or training starting Sept. 1

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Post by frob »

Grakel wrote: post #7

Congratulations to Texas for joining the more than 20 states respecting both the natural right to arms and the Constitution's regulation on government interference with it. I wish they had enumerated many more specific rights not to infringe, but some of the most violated today were considered too obvious to merit specific attention. We're seeing a huge surge for protecting gun rights on the local and state levels, n…

I'm curious to know which additional rights you want to be granted.

Re: Texans can carry handguns without a license or training starting Sept. 1

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Post by Grakel »

BrianOnHN wrote: post #11
Grakel wrote: post #7

Congratulations to Texas for joining the more than 20 states respecting both the natural right to arms and the Constitution's regulation on government interference with it. I wish they had enumerated many more specific rights not to infringe, but some of the most violated today were considered too obvious to merit specific attention. We're seeing a huge surge for protecting gun rights on the local and state levels, n…

Yeah, it's the same wave of people pushing "contraversal" voting laws at that level. Really something to be proud of /s

Absolutely incorrect. Gun control is another racist policy meant to keep control over those the elites fear.

Re: Texans can carry handguns without a license or training starting Sept. 1

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Post by hirundo »

This is part of a larger trend. See the maps here of the changes in permitted carry since the 80s:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_carry

This GIF in particular makes that point clearly:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_carry#/media/Fi...

And if anything it has accelerated around the Covid pandemic:

https://biostats.ucdavis.edu/health-news/newsroom/us-saw-sur...

As the politics in this country have curved in a liberal direction, I'm quite surprised that gun control issues seem to have moved the other way. What can explain that?

Re: Texans can carry handguns without a license or training starting Sept. 1

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Post by kingosticks »

Tade0 wrote: post #8
xwdv wrote: post #3

Why would Hackernews find this relevant?

Perhaps because it sounds so foreign to the rest of the world that it's automatically interesting.

Indeed, there's definitely an appetite for bizarre/weird stories on HN and as someone who lives outside of the US this seems totally bizarre to me. Even more bizarre that some other states already allow this.

But actually, not that interesting to me. Provided they stay out there and shoot amongst themselves as is their "God-given right", or whatever it is.

Re: Texans can carry handguns without a license or training starting Sept. 1

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Post by post_break »

This helps eliminate a victimless crime. The criminals will still carry illegally and this bill actually upgrades the felony for those who are caught carrying who legally could not.

Now someone who needs to carry who can't afford the overpriced classes, fingerprints, waiting for the state to mail you a card to give you your rights is gone. A lot of poor people need to carry a gun for protection, and either cant afford the other hurdles, or just can't make time to jump through all the hoops.

Remember, we're not the first state to allow this, not even the top 10, permits continued to go UP in states that passed these laws, and crime did not go up.

Re: Texans can carry handguns without a license or training starting Sept. 1

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Post by pm90 »

I’m curious about what parents from other states think of when considering moving to Texas. The priorities of the State Government seem to be mis aligned with the actual problems facing its people. This law in particular arguably both makes the state less safe and encourages a gun owning culture.
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