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Xcode 4.1 now available free from the Mac App Store

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Re: Xcode 4.1 now available free from the Mac App Store

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Post by drewcrawford »

Hisoka wrote: post #13

I'm kinda hesitant to get this as they always change a lot... all those iPhone development tutorials are very specific to a certain version. It took me awhile to find out how to deploy an iPhone app for the newer Xcode.

iOS developer here. 3.0->4.0 is the biggest jump in product history. 4.1 is just a bugfix / Lion support / couple of new widgets release.

It doesn't appear (warning: no release notes yet) that 4.1 runs on SL or that 4.0 runs on Lion, so run the version appropriate to your OS.

Re: Xcode 4.1 now available free from the Mac App Store

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Post by fullmoon »

buss wrote: post #40
Emore wrote: post #36

For me, Xcode 4.1 removed gcc-4.0 (needed by brew for example). If you had Xcode 3.x it's still in /Developer-old, and can be re-added with ln -s /Developer-old/usr/bin/gcc-4.0 /usr/bin/gcc-4.0.

Are you saying that the gcc no longer ships with Xcode, or that it, for some reason, moved the gcc binary to a different directory (or both)? If the gcc no longer comes with Xcode, how might one get gcc for OSX Lion?

They just removed GCC 4.0.

GCC 4.2.1 is avaiable as /usr/bin/gcc-4.2, and /usr/bin/gcc is actually LLVM-GCC 4.2

Re: Xcode 4.1 now available free from the Mac App Store

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Post by chc »

statictype wrote: post #37
chc wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reasoning was that they couldn't release Xcode 4 free for Snow Leopard because of Apple's extremely conservative interpretation of Sarbanes-Oxley. Xcode has always been free with new OS versions. They were only charging extra if you wanted to get it for the old OS. (An extremely low price point like $5 is generally a tip-off that Apple is just charging a nominal fee to satisfy accounting rules.)

This keeps coming up every now and then. What's the difference between Xcode and iTunes that lets them give iTunes updates for free?

That's a good question, but unfortunately I'm not privy to Apple's internal workings to give you an accurate answer. The general metric seems to be "Does it add value to the core product?" This is the same reason iOS updates are free to the iPhone but not to the iPod Touch — the iPhone is viewed as a multi-year investment (and reflected as such in Apple's accounting), while the iPod Touch is a shrinkwrap product that Apple doesn't believe it can add value to without charging for it.

But the precise bar for when they feel like they need to charge is something only Apple could tell you, and maybe not even them. Like I said, their interpretation of the law is idiosyncratic.

Re: Xcode 4.1 now available free from the Mac App Store

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Post by protomyth »

statictype wrote: post #37
chc wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reasoning was that they couldn't release Xcode 4 free for Snow Leopard because of Apple's extremely conservative interpretation of Sarbanes-Oxley. Xcode has always been free with new OS versions. They were only charging extra if you wanted to get it for the old OS. (An extremely low price point like $5 is generally a tip-off that Apple is just charging a nominal fee to satisfy accounting rules.)

This keeps coming up every now and then. What's the difference between Xcode and iTunes that lets them give iTunes updates for free?

The theory is iTunes facilitates the buying of items from the iTunes Store.

Re: Xcode 4.1 now available free from the Mac App Store

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Post by tedkimble »

hubb wrote: post #34
microtonal wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Waste" $5 for an toolset that could possibly make you a millionaire? Really, it's about the same price as a hammer...

xcode is a tool, and has near the same potential to make you a millionaire that a pencil does. if you paid $5 for a pencil, to be told a few days later that the same pencil was being offered freely, would wish you had waited for the free pencil?

No. I'd be ecstatic that the pencil is now free.

Re: Xcode 4.1 now available free from the Mac App Store

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Post by inportb »

hubb wrote: post #34
microtonal wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Waste" $5 for an toolset that could possibly make you a millionaire? Really, it's about the same price as a hammer...

xcode is a tool, and has near the same potential to make you a millionaire that a pencil does. if you paid $5 for a pencil, to be told a few days later that the same pencil was being offered freely, would wish you had waited for the free pencil?

I'd just take the free pencil... and use it when my current pencil runs out. What would you do with an extra copy of Xcode?

Re: Xcode 4.1 now available free from the Mac App Store

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Post by HockeyBiasDotCo »

microtonal wrote: post #5
cdcarter wrote: post #3

Glad to see it's back to free. Now I wish I didn't waste that $5...

"Waste" $5 for an toolset that could possibly make you a millionaire? Really, it's about the same price as a hammer...

...5 lottery tickets could also make you a millionaire.

Re: Xcode 4.1 now available free from the Mac App Store

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Post by epistasis »

Edit: found a fix, if quitting iTunes isn't enough for the installer, you need to launch the Activity Monitor and manually kill the "iTunes Helper" process. What a pain.

This seems extremely half-baked. The App Store doesn't install Xcode, it just downloads an installer for Xcode, and ever-so-helpfully places it in LaunchPad.

After launching the installer and letting it run for many minutes, it silently popped up a window requesting that I quit iTunes for the installation to proceed. Besides being an insane request, when I do quit iTunes nothing happens. And if I double click on the iTunes name it launches iTunes. And on top of that, this request window isn't associated with the installer app, so I wouldn't even know it has anything to do with Xcode unless I'm not doing anything else on my computer.

And to top it all off, the installer has disabled all its buttons, so there's no clean way to quit it, and no way to get it to check for iTunes again.

This is about the lowest quality that I've ever seen Apple achieve; I hope that the rest of the dev chain gets more love.

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