Master’s degrees are the second biggest scam in higher education?

Post by xenihn » Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 3:27 PM UTC

rvz wrote: post #10

I guess they are paying $300k for the connections and access to the elites who go to these universities but whats the point of paying if the 'elite university experience' is not only virtual, but anyone can go and get a MS degree online for cheap access? (Obviously for some courses) Still the pandemic has made it glaringly obvious that depending on the course you study, in this case, history, media, drama and film st…

Post by ghaff » Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 3:28 PM UTC

rvz wrote: post #10

I guess they are paying $300k for the connections and access to the elites who go to these universities but whats the point of paying if the 'elite university experience' is not only virtual, but anyone can go and get a MS degree online for cheap access? (Obviously for some courses) Still the pandemic has made it glaringly obvious that depending on the course you study, in this case, history, media, drama and film st…

Post by CalChris » Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 3:31 PM UTC

sys_64738 wrote: post #122

wirthjason wrote: post #14

One of the key issues I see is that we don’t place a high enough value on adult education. A philosophy professor of mine told me the word “andragogy”, which is the theory of adult education. It’s different from “pedagogy” which means the education of children. I always thought that learning is learning. It never occurred to me that there’s a difference between how and why children learn and that it could be differen…

> Most masters classes are simply just repackaged versions of undergraduate classes, maybe with a little more depth. Depends on the country. Masters degrees can be research which are the first year of a Ph.D. or they can be taught degrees. In the latter they are usually called "conversion" courses where there's intensive focus on filling in gaps in education for somebody moving to the field. E.g. moving from an Econo…

  Lower division is problem sets.
  Upper division is problem sets + project.
  Graduate is project + research paper.

Post by kingofpandora » Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 3:32 PM UTC

UK-Al05 wrote: post #98

chrisseaton wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right so the employees providing the actual services may need qualifications. The person opening the business doesn't. I've never seen anywhere where opening a business needs a degree or qualification.

Yes, because tons of people have the capital to open business and hire employees. Reality is most people wanting to retrain are going to do it as a single person business as a plumber, hair dresser or similar.

Post by maccard » Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 3:34 PM UTC

sys_64738 wrote: post #122

wirthjason wrote: post #14

One of the key issues I see is that we don’t place a high enough value on adult education. A philosophy professor of mine told me the word “andragogy”, which is the theory of adult education. It’s different from “pedagogy” which means the education of children. I always thought that learning is learning. It never occurred to me that there’s a difference between how and why children learn and that it could be differen…

> Most masters classes are simply just repackaged versions of undergraduate classes, maybe with a little more depth. Depends on the country. Masters degrees can be research which are the first year of a Ph.D. or they can be taught degrees. In the latter they are usually called "conversion" courses where there's intensive focus on filling in gaps in education for somebody moving to the field. E.g. moving from an Econo…