Live data from Hacker News

112 Gripes About the French

en.wikipedia.org

111–120 of 365 posts

Re: 112 Gripes About the French

#111
post #91
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hah. The first encounters between the French and the US in WW II were hostile: The US landings in Morocco against French resistance.

> Hah. The first encounters between the French and the US in WW II were hostile: The US landings in Morocco against French resistance. I feel this statement grossly misrepresents history. French north Africa was controlled by Vichy France, which was Nazi Germany's puppet regime and did not represented french sentiment or opinion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Torch

Vichy did represent French sentiment at the beginning. Things changed with time.

Re: 112 Gripes About the French

#112

What's the copyright situation of this book? Say I want to restore it, clean it up, and publish a nice epub (using as source the PDF already linked in a comment here). Is it copyright infringement, or is its copyright expired now? "112 gripes" was published in 1945, thus sites like https://www.biblio.com/blog/2010/07/how-to-determine-if-a-bo... suggest it's expired . But also, it was republished in the US in 2004 (IS…

> Does this make it "freshly-re-copyrighted until 2004 + 70 years?", or is the year that counts for copyright the original publishing date? Any changes (spelling, typos, the typesetting) in the new publication would be under a new copyright term. In practice, if you make your copy from the earlier out of copyright edition then you're fine. (Assuming you are correct that the earlier edition is truly out of copyright)

> Assuming you are correct that the earlier edition is truly out of copyright

Given that it is:

- A US Gov document (see other comment about it)

- From 1945 (so, from 1923-1963) and without an explicit Copyright symbol on the document

, I tend to believe so. Maybe I can find not-for-profit lawyer advice to confirm it.

Re: 112 Gripes About the French

#113

What's the copyright situation of this book? Say I want to restore it, clean it up, and publish a nice epub (using as source the PDF already linked in a comment here). Is it copyright infringement, or is its copyright expired now? "112 gripes" was published in 1945, thus sites like https://www.biblio.com/blog/2010/07/how-to-determine-if-a-bo... suggest it's expired . But also, it was republished in the US in 2004 (IS…

I would be interested in a cleaned up version of this text. If you plan on rewriting the content from the PDF, I can lend a hand !

Re: 112 Gripes About the French

#114
The France of 75 years ago sounds like a paradise compared to the France today, which I don't feel particularly safe in--at least in Paris.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_21st-century_F...

and the fact that murder is not prosecuted:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/17/world/europe/sarah-halimi...

Re: 112 Gripes About the French

#115

I find this an embarrassingly entertaining read! I particularly like this bit: “The French are not up-to-date. They’re not modern. They’re living in the past." “… The World Almanac for 1945 concludes that as far as social legislation is concerned, "France is in the vanguard" .. The French were certainly up-to-date in establishing old age pensions, compulsory insurance against illness, disability and death, maternity…

The US established basic social insurance in the 30s, and generally ~all industrialised nations were going in this direction in the era fairly uncontroversially; at the time I don’t think it was particularly contentious.

The idea that social welfare is a partisan issue, with one side considering it to be, essentially, a bad thing, is really a fairly modern invention in the US; Reagan era.

Re: 112 Gripes About the French

#116
post #113

What's the copyright situation of this book? Say I want to restore it, clean it up, and publish a nice epub (using as source the PDF already linked in a comment here). Is it copyright infringement, or is its copyright expired now? "112 gripes" was published in 1945, thus sites like https://www.biblio.com/blog/2010/07/how-to-determine-if-a-bo... suggest it's expired . But also, it was republished in the US in 2004 (IS…

I would be interested in a cleaned up version of this text. If you plan on rewriting the content from the PDF, I can lend a hand !

Sure, thanks! Ping me at ronan foo jouchet bar fr . Will get in touch if I follow-up on making this happen.

Re: 112 Gripes About the French

#117
post #108
post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's true. Europeans of that era did not bathe everyday. Americans of a very close earlier ear didn't bathe everyday either...

Many Americans of the exact same era probably didn't bathe every day.

And true in Europe today. Ever been on a train in Germany in the summertime?

Re: 112 Gripes About the French

#119
post #10

This whole thing is amazing. It still reads really well today, like there's no tone of racism and nothing seems inappropriate (which is a hard thing to achieve with time). I wish we had such a book currently on how arabs and the muslim world are different, but not so different than us. > We didn't come to Europe to save the French, either in 1917 or in 1944. We didn't come to Europe to do anyone any favors. We came t…

> This one could apply to our relationship with China maybe? This is absolutely nothing like the situation with China, which is definitely NOT an ally of the west. Shortly after assuming his position as President of the People's Republic of China, Xi Jinping disseminated a secret internal paper with his most important views and plans, including the 7 biggest threats to China in his eyes. In 2013, this "document numbe…

We have to make a distinction here. The book is about the French, the people, and how they are when you live with them in their own country.

Almost all news about China are not about the people of China, but instead treat China as a single entity defined by its government.

I think GP has a point is that we could get a better understanding of China by considering the people, their culture and how they live on a day-to-day basis rather than by focusing on Xi Jinping.

I'd like to see more reports of westerners actually living there, rather than government talk.

Re: 112 Gripes About the French

#120
post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

? but trigger was started and used by that side themselves.

my understanding is that the word trigger is used in psychology to describe a wide range of traumatic responses. e.g whenever a war veteran suffering from ptsd hears firework it may trigger a strong traumatic response. //victims of abuse can get "triggered" by the presence or even mention of their abuser etc it applies to a wide range of traumas and responses some of which might be more or less extreme, so it does in…

This was the original idea, that some people with genuine traumatic experiences and were currently suffering from mental illness could choose to opt-out before proceeding on to read/watch something. But the concept got wildly out of hand as activists, especially younger adults, began obsessively applying it to nearly any piece of written word and anything they could frame as traumatic.

For example, if you're about to present a movie to a captive audience that involves depictions of rape, it would be good that someone who has experienced rape, especially recently, knows that it will ahead of time and has the ability to opt-out because it might trigger a traumatic episode. The circumstances where you have a captive audience and it's not clear from the context what will be depicted are actually quite rare, so its usage should be rare.

But young people, trying to signal their virtuous compassion and understanding to like-minded individuals, would put "trigger warnings" at the top of blog posts about things like "racism" or "homophobia", and all that would be discussed would be that they overheard a slur at the store.

At some point, the dominant use of trigger warnings was by people with thin skins, ready to get offended on behalf of "victims" who had suffered, at worst, nothing more than people being rude or mean to them. Pretending like these kinds of negative encounters are anything close to the mind-breaking trauma of getting raped or watching your fellow soldiers explode in front of you is disgusting, and eventually everyone caught on that the activists were trying to equivocate real trauma with "hurt feelings". Worse, they were effectively teaching young people to internalize and exaggerate negative experiences so that they could identify as someone with PTSD. That doing this made them unique and gave them extra attention from others who wanted to actively show compassion to victimized people. For lonely young people who want a cause, it was extremely attractive because it gave them identity, purpose, and community. But in reality, it was largely a perverted roleplay which coddled everyone involved and made them emotionally fragile.

The original concept of trigger warnings is solid, but should be practiced only where necessary and never attached to the phrase "trigger warning", as that nomenclature has been ceded to the activists.

Post reply on HN