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What Became of the Arcos Undersea Cable Connection to Cuba? (2020)
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is no partisan strife Biden and the Democratic party are silent on Cuba. But dig a little more and their stance is the same as the GOP.
Pretty sure you're right. Mccarthysm ended decades ago, but its effects are still there. We probably need to evolve for some time (centuries?) before a politician can openly speak about anything related to communism without being labeled as the devil and see their career destroyed in seconds.
As far as I'm aware, Communism was a "dirty word" since the Russian revolution.
The obvious conspiracy theory is that those in the halls of power embarked (successfully) on a multi-decade project to suppress and discredit Communism as an acceptable political belief.
Re: What Became of the Arcos Undersea Cable Connection to Cuba? (2020)
#33Maybe a little off topic, but why the US are still so hostile against Cuba? Is there any real reason or credible threat that the small island could damage the US? It seems like US is holding the grudge way too long.
Cuba is a geographicly strategic location. It sits right in the middle of the Caribbean and makes up one side of each of the three choke points which allow shipping to/from the Gulf of Mexico US ports. A hostile regime left on its own could become a major threat to the US economy by making traversal of those straits hazardous to US shipments. This is major commodities. Petrochemicals, agriculture, raw ore, fertilizer…
This is actually delusional, I'm sorry.
Cuba possess exactly 0 anti-shipping threat to the US. There is no feasible scenario where Cuba develops enough, with a population of 11 million, to become a military threat to the US. It could fire off a few missiles before the positions get destroyed, sure, but so could any nation with an SSK.
The reason for the enmity towards Cuba is nothing else than the Monroe Doctrine, and despite any appeals to "adulthood" which are thinly veiled appeals to paternalism, the Monroe Doctrine is interpreted better through an elementary schoolyard bully lens than through the eyes of the adults in the room - "if you're ij my class you can't be bestest friends with anybody else". It doesn't come with any consideration for anyone beyond the US and its not even about security, it's about dominance.
Re: What Became of the Arcos Undersea Cable Connection to Cuba? (2020)
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Pretty hard to do big projects like this when you're sanctioned by the US and no company can work with you.
Nord Stream 2 was one of those few moments that made me proud as a European.
What's there to be proud about when a foreign power manages to bring a local infrastructure project to a halt?
Re: What Became of the Arcos Undersea Cable Connection to Cuba? (2020)
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is no partisan strife Biden and the Democratic party are silent on Cuba. But dig a little more and their stance is the same as the GOP.
No, many in the GOP still agree with wetfoot/dryfoot due to the ongoing historical legacy of the failure of JFK at the Bay of Pigs. Rhetorically, to pick a couple of examples, Ron DeSantis and Marco Rubio correctly have identified the Communist regime as the cause of the unrest in Cuba. And if the age of postmodernism has taught us anything it's that rhetoric matters. AOC, self professed "trained Marxist" Patrisse Cu…
We don't have comparable embargoes on nation-states whose governments have committed much more heinous crimes.
Like with sanctions in the Middle East, it just hurts regular people and the government continues to not care.
Re: What Became of the Arcos Undersea Cable Connection to Cuba? (2020)
#36Posting this because there were many reports of Internet disruptions in Cuba and HN likes stuff about underwater cables. What many may not know is that there's one major high speed link to the world through ALBA-1. This article is about the ARCOS-1 cable network in the Carribean. An extension was supposed to be added to Cuba but mysteriously was dropped around the last US presidential election. As far as I can tell t…
> Posting this because there were many reports of Internet disruptions in Cuba and HN likes stuff about underwater cables.
An unbuilt cable is unlikely to be related to current disruptions. It's much more likely the regime is using disruptions as an anti-protest tactic against the recent protests.
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#37Posting this because there were many reports of Internet disruptions in Cuba and HN likes stuff about underwater cables. What many may not know is that there's one major high speed link to the world through ALBA-1. This article is about the ARCOS-1 cable network in the Carribean. An extension was supposed to be added to Cuba but mysteriously was dropped around the last US presidential election. As far as I can tell t…
> Posting this because there were many reports of Internet disruptions in Cuba and HN likes stuff about underwater cables. An unbuilt cable is unlikely to be related to current disruptions. It's much more likely the regime is using disruptions as an anti-protest tactic against the recent protests.
On the subject of anti-protest tactics, I was a little surprised to see BLM come out so openly in favor of the regime that was repressing protests and criticism of the government via police brutality. I would have thought Cuba would be a slam dunk for them.
Re: What Became of the Arcos Undersea Cable Connection to Cuba? (2020)
#38Maybe a little off topic, but why the US are still so hostile against Cuba? Is there any real reason or credible threat that the small island could damage the US? It seems like US is holding the grudge way too long.
I think the US does not want to trade extensively with who they perceive to be an oppressive regime (and I share that perception, for transparency).
Re: What Became of the Arcos Undersea Cable Connection to Cuba? (2020)
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cuba is a geographicly strategic location. It sits right in the middle of the Caribbean and makes up one side of each of the three choke points which allow shipping to/from the Gulf of Mexico US ports. A hostile regime left on its own could become a major threat to the US economy by making traversal of those straits hazardous to US shipments. This is major commodities. Petrochemicals, agriculture, raw ore, fertilizer…
This is actually delusional, I'm sorry. Cuba possess exactly 0 anti-shipping threat to the US. There is no feasible scenario where Cuba develops enough, with a population of 11 million, to become a military threat to the US. It could fire off a few missiles before the positions get destroyed, sure, but so could any nation with an SSK. The reason for the enmity towards Cuba is nothing else than the Monroe Doctrine, an…
> This is actually delusional, I'm sorry.
> Cuba possess exactly 0 anti-shipping threat to the US. There is no feasible scenario where Cuba develops enough, with a population of 11 million, to become a military threat to the US. It could fire off a few missiles before the positions get destroyed, sure, but so could any nation with an SSK.
> The reason for the enmity towards Cuba is nothing else than the Monroe Doctrine, and despite any appeals to "adulthood" which are thinly veiled appeals to paternalism, the Monroe Doctrine is interpreted better through an elementary schoolyard bully lens than through the eyes of the adults in the room - "if you're ij my class you can't be bestest friends with anybody else". It doesn't come with any consideration for anyone beyond the US and its not even about security, it's about dominance.
You're essentially claiming that the US is holding a multigenerational grudge rather than implementing some sort of strategic objective.
Can you help me understand why you believe this? Ideally with citations and without hostile language like "delusional"?
Re: What Became of the Arcos Undersea Cable Connection to Cuba? (2020)
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Posting this because there were many reports of Internet disruptions in Cuba and HN likes stuff about underwater cables. An unbuilt cable is unlikely to be related to current disruptions. It's much more likely the regime is using disruptions as an anti-protest tactic against the recent protests.
On the subject of anti-protest tactics, I was a little surprised to see BLM come out so openly in favor of the regime that was repressing protests and criticism of the government via police brutality. I would have thought Cuba would be a slam dunk for them.
Do you have a post of this? Last I look BLM, mistakenly, believes the protests are about the embargo. I haven't seen anything from them supporting or criticizing the regime.