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Re: OS X Lion Now Available in the US Mac App Store

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Post by zcid »

vito wrote: post #158
bengl3rt wrote: post #152

I'll echo what I said on the Siracusa thread: Has everyone managed to overlook how patently awful and useless Mission Control is on multiple monitors? Whereas in the Spaces view in Snow Leopard I could move a window to a different space AND a different monitor with a quick drag, Mission Control doesn't allow this - I have to first move the window to the correct "Desktop", then exit MC and drag it to the correct monit…

I wish they would go the xmonad route, and simply treat each display as an independent "workspace container". Being able to switch independently (and still use the other display when using a fullscreen app) is a huge productivity gain.

This is the main reason I use linux on my mbp instead of os x. Being unable to manipulate my monitors independently is asinine.

Re: OS X Lion Now Available in the US Mac App Store

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Post by ojbyrne »

mars wrote: post #40

i installed the developer preview of os-x lion some weeks ago. following are my first impressions. let me know how you think... performance: at first i thought lions performance sucks, but mdworker and kextcache processes are re-initializing spotlight right after installation which slows down the system and heats up the cpu. after two hours of fan-noise and heat the system seems to be fine and is running smoothly now…

TRIM support was added in 10.6.8: http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/27/mac-os-x-10-6-8-brings-t...

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Post by alsocasey »

ceejayoz wrote: post #181
blinkingled wrote: post #30

How is the backwards compatibility in general? I got a Oracle 10g database running on SL that I am particularly worried about. I got it anyways - will have to do a full backup and find out I suppose. Speaking of 4GB downloads - OS X still does not have something like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Background_Intelligent_Transfer... which can utilize priorities, throttling and do idle bandwidth downloads. That means my…

XCode 4.1 is now on the App Store: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/xcode/id448457090

...and it's free again? I thought they'd gone to a 4.99$ price for some accounting reason with 4.0?

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Post by silversmith »

blinkingled wrote: post #30

How is the backwards compatibility in general? I got a Oracle 10g database running on SL that I am particularly worried about. I got it anyways - will have to do a full backup and find out I suppose. Speaking of 4GB downloads - OS X still does not have something like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Background_Intelligent_Transfer... which can utilize priorities, throttling and do idle bandwidth downloads. That means my…

If you have any kind of Oracle support contract, please put in a ticket. From what I've read, Oracle has adopted 'until paying customers complain enough, we don't even know OS X 10.7 exists' stance on this.

Also, knowing how long it took them to get a working x86 client out, I wouldn't hope to use 10.7 for Oracle-related development at least till next year.

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Post by andrewf »

dgallagher wrote: post #138
Nemisis7654 wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am mainly an Android developer and use Eclipse, which is by no means light...So I guess, in this case, I should stay away from the MBA?

A good test would be to try out the MBA's resolution on your current display, and work with Eclipse in it. 1366x768 for the 11 inch, and 1440x900 for the 13.

Fonts and interface chrome always seem to take up a tiny bit more space on OS X. Not usually an issue but I'd take it into account if, on Windows, a given res is barely usable.

I have a 13-inch air; the pixels are tiny. If you try 1440x900 on a large monitor, bear in mind smaller fonts may not be using once you shrink down to laptop size.

Apple stores seem pretty liberal about machine use (notwithstanding the guy being prosecuted for installing webcam upload software on a store's machines..) - maybe you could download Mac Eclipse to a USB key and try it out on a machine?

Re: OS X Lion Now Available in the US Mac App Store

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Post by trotsky »

mitchty wrote: post #210
coderdude wrote: post #15

Not being a Mac user, is this significant? Like when Windows is released?

For most users no, but for $30 its kind of hard to make excuses not to upgrade. I'm a huge fan of the ASLR and sandboxing changes so security wise there are good reasons to upgrade.

What sandbox changes did they make? Is that the app store apps can't open documents without a user selecting them in a file chooser thing?

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Post by siong1987 »

Stwerner wrote: post #87
djipko wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So Xcode 3 won't work and mavcim keeps crashing. Is it like: sometimes seems unstable - crashing, or completely unusable - crashing. Details much appreciated as it is my main editor.

Same here. I found this: https://github.com/b4winckler/macvim/wiki/ChangeLog Might just have to upgrade to snapshot 59. I guess I'll find out when lion finishes downloading. But really, people actually use the open/save panels in MacVim?

I am currently on snapshot 59 as well. It is stable in the way that it crashes ~ every 10 mintues.

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Post by mitchty »

masklinn wrote: post #97
blinkingled wrote: post #30

How is the backwards compatibility in general? I got a Oracle 10g database running on SL that I am particularly worried about. I got it anyways - will have to do a full backup and find out I suppose. Speaking of 4GB downloads - OS X still does not have something like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Background_Intelligent_Transfer... which can utilize priorities, throttling and do idle bandwidth downloads. That means my…

> Xcode is no longer there It was never part of the base install so that's unsurprising. > App Store doesn't seem to have a 10.7 compatible XCode update yet. > Ho hum for the most part and even nightmarish for people using Xcode. Thanks for being the coalmine canary, I'll be waiting for next week as planned.

Just to note, i never bought the xcode 4 package from the app store. After I purchased snow leopard the price changed from $4.99 to free.

So while the base os install doesn't have it, it appears as though the naysayers were wrong about them charging for the dev tools. Although I have to go home and update to Lion to be able to download it, it won't let me snag it on my 10.6 system.

Just thought i'd throw that out into the wind so people don't think they need to have both bought. Though $5 is pretty miniscule imo.

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Post by quux »

ry0ohki wrote: post #112

The reversing of the scrolling direction is certainly going to take a lot of getting used to. The new way feels semi-natural with the track pad, but with a mouse wheel not so much.

Give it a week. After a couple of days your mind flips and suddenly the old way seems wrong.
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