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What Became of the Arcos Undersea Cable Connection to Cuba? (2020)

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Re: What Became of the Arcos Undersea Cable Connection to Cuba? (2020)

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Maybe a little off topic, but why the US are still so hostile against Cuba? Is there any real reason or credible threat that the small island could damage the US? It seems like US is holding the grudge way too long.

Didn't Obama try normalizing the relationship until Trump came along and decided to undo it? Same thing for Iran I guess? Sometimes I feel US foreign policy is much too dependent on the whims of the current administration. Presidents should perhaps have Congress ratify/codify decisions with long-term implications, which would make it harder for the next administration to change?

> Presidents should perhaps have Congress ratify/codify decisions with long-term implications, which would make it harder for the next administration to change?

This is how it works. Lets take the JCPOA as an example. That was the Obama era nuclear deal with Iran. Because of the voting situation in Congress there was no way to get it accepted there. What could have been ratified by Congress would not have been accepted by Iran. Therefore Obama signed the deal as an executive action. He couldn’t have done that if the deal would be bidding with long term implications, so they worded the deal such that the executive of the USA had to re-affirm their commitment to the deal periodically. Trump did re-affirm it at first but when it came up again the second time he refused.

In short: it works exactly as you say already. Obama just simply didn’t have the votes in Congress to push through a binding treaty.

Re: What Became of the Arcos Undersea Cable Connection to Cuba? (2020)

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post #12

Maybe a little off topic, but why the US are still so hostile against Cuba? Is there any real reason or credible threat that the small island could damage the US? It seems like US is holding the grudge way too long.

Didn't Obama try normalizing the relationship until Trump came along and decided to undo it? Same thing for Iran I guess? Sometimes I feel US foreign policy is much too dependent on the whims of the current administration. Presidents should perhaps have Congress ratify/codify decisions with long-term implications, which would make it harder for the next administration to change?

Everyone knows Cuba's a major political issue for Florida. Trump admin publicly signalled support for a new cable[1], but then it was apparently dropped. Biden administration so far has been quiet on the topic. Given that this should be an executive decision, I'm curious as to what FOIA requests would turn up.

[1] https://www.state.gov/cuba-internet-task-force-final-report/

Re: What Became of the Arcos Undersea Cable Connection to Cuba? (2020)

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Posting this because there were many reports of Internet disruptions in Cuba and HN likes stuff about underwater cables. What many may not know is that there's one major high speed link to the world through ALBA-1. This article is about the ARCOS-1 cable network in the Carribean. An extension was supposed to be added to Cuba but mysteriously was dropped around the last US presidential election. As far as I can tell t…

Could do with 2020 appended to the title.

Re: What Became of the Arcos Undersea Cable Connection to Cuba? (2020)

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Posting this because there were many reports of Internet disruptions in Cuba and HN likes stuff about underwater cables. What many may not know is that there's one major high speed link to the world through ALBA-1. This article is about the ARCOS-1 cable network in the Carribean. An extension was supposed to be added to Cuba but mysteriously was dropped around the last US presidential election. As far as I can tell t…

There is no partisan strife Biden and the Democratic party are silent on Cuba. But dig a little more and their stance is the same as the GOP.

Pretty sure you're right. Mccarthysm ended decades ago, but its effects are still there. We probably need to evolve for some time (centuries?) before a politician can openly speak about anything related to communism without being labeled as the devil and see their career destroyed in seconds.

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This blog post has a update here - https://www.circleid.com/posts/20210223-simple-suggestion-fo...

Whoops, I missed it! Honestly this should be the submission as it's the most updated.

So Google is now a player on this topic...

Re: What Became of the Arcos Undersea Cable Connection to Cuba? (2020)

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Posting this because there were many reports of Internet disruptions in Cuba and HN likes stuff about underwater cables. What many may not know is that there's one major high speed link to the world through ALBA-1. This article is about the ARCOS-1 cable network in the Carribean. An extension was supposed to be added to Cuba but mysteriously was dropped around the last US presidential election. As far as I can tell t…

There is no partisan strife Biden and the Democratic party are silent on Cuba. But dig a little more and their stance is the same as the GOP.

No, many in the GOP still agree with wetfoot/dryfoot due to the ongoing historical legacy of the failure of JFK at the Bay of Pigs.

Rhetorically, to pick a couple of examples, Ron DeSantis and Marco Rubio correctly have identified the Communist regime as the cause of the unrest in Cuba. And if the age of postmodernism has taught us anything it's that rhetoric matters.

AOC, self professed "trained Marxist" Patrisse Cullors, and many Democrats, instead blame all the problems in Cuba on the US embargo and forgive the regime for its many crimes, and BLM put out a statement of support for the regime.

The GOP isn't unified but at least some of them seem to understand the reality of the regime there and aren't eager to kowtow because the regime claims to have universal education and healthcare.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty hard to do big projects like this when you're sanctioned by the US and no company can work with you.

Nord Stream 2 was one of those few moments that made me proud as a European.

Being more reliant on Russian gas supplies because you turned off you nuclear plants made you more proud?

Re: What Became of the Arcos Undersea Cable Connection to Cuba? (2020)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty hard to do big projects like this when you're sanctioned by the US and no company can work with you.

Nord Stream 2 was one of those few moments that made me proud as a European.

That happened due to the ongoing breakdown in the alliance between the US and Western European imperialist blocks.

Sadly, it wasn’t due to some principled stance against US economic warfare.

Re: What Became of the Arcos Undersea Cable Connection to Cuba? (2020)

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Maybe a little off topic, but why the US are still so hostile against Cuba? Is there any real reason or credible threat that the small island could damage the US? It seems like US is holding the grudge way too long.

Cuba is a geographicly strategic location. It sits right in the middle of the Caribbean and makes up one side of each of the three choke points which allow shipping to/from the Gulf of Mexico US ports.

A hostile regime left on its own could become a major threat to the US economy by making traversal of those straits hazardous to US shipments. This is major commodities. Petrochemicals, agriculture, raw ore, fertilizer, etc.

There is always some political angle, but the adults in the room are generally aligned that Cuba needs to either be friendly or at least be impotent.

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