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What Became of the Arcos Undersea Cable Connection to Cuba? (2020)

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Re: What Became of the Arcos Undersea Cable Connection to Cuba? (2020)

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Why isn't Cuba the country organising their own cable connection? There are plenty of nearish places to connect to if the US doesn't want to be involved.

Pretty hard to do big projects like this when you're sanctioned by the US and no company can work with you.

Re: What Became of the Arcos Undersea Cable Connection to Cuba? (2020)

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Posting this because there were many reports of Internet disruptions in Cuba and HN likes stuff about underwater cables. What many may not know is that there's one major high speed link to the world through ALBA-1. This article is about the ARCOS-1 cable network in the Carribean. An extension was supposed to be added to Cuba but mysteriously was dropped around the last US presidential election. As far as I can tell t…

There is no partisan strife Biden and the Democratic party are silent on Cuba. But dig a little more and their stance is the same as the GOP.

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Why isn't Cuba the country organising their own cable connection? There are plenty of nearish places to connect to if the US doesn't want to be involved.

Pretty hard to do big projects like this when you're sanctioned by the US and no company can work with you.

Nord Stream 2 was one of those few moments that made me proud as a European.

Re: What Became of the Arcos Undersea Cable Connection to Cuba? (2020)

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post #12

Maybe a little off topic, but why the US are still so hostile against Cuba? Is there any real reason or credible threat that the small island could damage the US? It seems like US is holding the grudge way too long.

I think most American politicians wouldn't care, if not for many Cuban Americans still caring a great deal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban-American_lobby#Political...

Re: What Became of the Arcos Undersea Cable Connection to Cuba? (2020)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty hard to do big projects like this when you're sanctioned by the US and no company can work with you.

Nord Stream 2 was one of those few moments that made me proud as a European.

Hmm.. when I remember right, we European needed to take Russian help to avoid legal troubles with the US.

Re: What Became of the Arcos Undersea Cable Connection to Cuba? (2020)

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post #12

Maybe a little off topic, but why the US are still so hostile against Cuba? Is there any real reason or credible threat that the small island could damage the US? It seems like US is holding the grudge way too long.

Didn't Obama try normalizing the relationship until Trump came along and decided to undo it? Same thing for Iran I guess?

Sometimes I feel US foreign policy is much too dependent on the whims of the current administration. Presidents should perhaps have Congress ratify/codify decisions with long-term implications, which would make it harder for the next administration to change?

Re: What Became of the Arcos Undersea Cable Connection to Cuba? (2020)

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I am not really sure of the agenda behind this post, but just a reminder that there is a submarine cable (ALBA-1) that connects Cuba and Venezuela and serves as a full time link and connects Cuba to the world and gives them FREE INTERNET through Venezuelan biggest ISP (Cantv). This free internet makes Venezuelans furious as our corrupt, dictatorship government rather give CUBA a big part of our own international conn…

Also not trying to be political, I don’t believe the Cuban embargo/sanctions are due to the existence of a dictatorship. The US has happily done business with, propped up, and installed various dictatorships in the past and continues to do so as well. These dictatorships have performed atrocities similar to or worse than those that the Cuban government performs. Examples include Spain, Argentina, Chile, and perhaps Brazil in the second half of the 20th century.

IMO, the US government is opposed to the proliferation of communism/socialism and for that reason maintains certain embargoes/sanctions. The current sanctions that I know of are against Venezuela, North Korea, and Cuba, all openly communist dictatorships.

To conclude, sob stories aside, the existence of a dictatorship in Cuba is not a motivator for the sanctions against Cuba.

Re: What Became of the Arcos Undersea Cable Connection to Cuba? (2020)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty hard to do big projects like this when you're sanctioned by the US and no company can work with you.

Nord Stream 2 was one of those few moments that made me proud as a European.

Not really, half the EU, especially the east, sided with the US in the matter. I think it was good that Germany didn't cave (yet), but European unity just wasn't there at all.

Re: What Became of the Arcos Undersea Cable Connection to Cuba? (2020)

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post #7

I am not really sure of the agenda behind this post, but just a reminder that there is a submarine cable (ALBA-1) that connects Cuba and Venezuela and serves as a full time link and connects Cuba to the world and gives them FREE INTERNET through Venezuelan biggest ISP (Cantv). This free internet makes Venezuelans furious as our corrupt, dictatorship government rather give CUBA a big part of our own international conn…

>I am not really sure of the agenda behind this post

Cuba, regardless of its government situation, should have multiple high speed links to the rest of the world. Assuming that you are posting from there, you would be in benefit of this. Having a single link makes it extremely vulnerable to outages caused by both technical and geopolitical issues.

Filtering/control of their people's access is a real but separate issue.

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