Of course everything is in the interest of the public, so everything is going to be transparent, accountable, appealable, based on clear rules. As usual for Google.
Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”
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Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”
#402I see a lot of comments misinterpreting this. First, it's not about private files, it's about distributing content. Google isn't spying on your private files, but does scan them when you share them publicly. E.g. keep all the pirated movies you want on your Drive, and even give private access to friends, but the moment you make them publicly viewable Google scans them and limits access accordingly. So no, this isn't…
So, last year when the Wuhan lab leak was a conspiracy theory, it would have been (and was) censored.
But what happens when Google/their allies change their mind and determine that something is no longer a conspiracy theory?
Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”
#403Their definition of misleading says it "includes information [...] that contradicts official government records". Because no government record has ever been wrong before, right?
Early on Fauci was telling everyone how useless masks were [1]. I have a couple people in my social circle that were banned from fb for saying he was wrong early on about masks being ineffective. And several others were banned later for pointing out fauci's earlier stance and calling it all propaganda. You are not allowed to think for yourself. Pick up that can. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE-XVfZCX-o
"We have recently been notified of a potential policy violation and after a thorough review of the video materials uploaded, it has been determined that the content is misleading and contradicts official government records. As a result of this decision, you access terminating to Youtube and other Google products, including Gmail, has been terminated. The decisions is final. This message is auto-generated"
“The past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.”
Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”
#404I see a lot of comments misinterpreting this. First, it's not about private files, it's about distributing content. Google isn't spying on your private files, but does scan them when you share them publicly. E.g. keep all the pirated movies you want on your Drive, and even give private access to friends, but the moment you make them publicly viewable Google scans them and limits access accordingly. So no, this isn't…
the rest of us were fine before google did this drive ban. how about they just put a warning on it for morons like you and let the rest of us read it?
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#405Earlier quoted context omitted.
The other truth is we're all outraged when these companies host some stuff that we don't like ... and get upset when they don't host the stuff we do like. Consumers aren't rational. Neither are their demands. I'm probably no more rational than anyone else, but I'm honest that I sure as hell don't want to give money to a service that is happy to host some violent folks content / garbage...
> The other truth is we're all outraged when these companies host some stuff that we don't like Please, speak for yourself. I think these companies should host absolutely everything[0]. Between 2010-2016 was the golden age for these companies actually being free and open. Edit: Within the law. To be honest, there is very little I see that should be censored beyond CP.
I think this is one of those things that sounds nice on the surface but isn't really tenable in reality.
Should they only host or also surface "everything"? Is deranking something censoring? What about not promoting something? If the idea is every thing is given equal weight, then things pretty quickly becomes a cesspool.
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#406The road to hell is paved with "good intentions". We desperately need to find a globally adoptable alternative to google and the services that it provides. Docs, Sheets, Drive, etc. are fantastic services in that they work really well on a massive scale. However, Google's increasing role as an arbiter of right vs wrong and a steward of information puts too much power into the hands of one corporation, whose best inte…
I think your fundamental error is in the fact that you think that a private company (and market competition) can fix these issues. It seems that many people on HN are just waiting for the new Savior company, that will magically have incentives to fight for them instead of making money. It's like hoping for market competition create health regulation in the food industry. Turns out, not even Apple is that messiah, and…
>Turns out, not even Apple is that messiah
They were, just no longer the same under Tim Cook.
I dont want to derail the discussion into another political debate but my thesis, is that some ideology spread like plague in Silicon Valley. The Good vs Evil. As the OP said Google stated off being good, but somewhere along the line the definition of Good got twisted a little bit. They keep thinking they were so righteous they literally started a crusade or witch-hunt ( so to speak ).
And it is in some way interesting because it rhymes with many historical events.
Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”
#407Man, we are completely unprepared for the level of control it is not possible to have over speech. I guess I get where Google is coming from, maybe, but this is getting downright Orwellian.
Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”
#408Earlier quoted context omitted.
The other truth is we're all outraged when these companies host some stuff that we don't like ... and get upset when they don't host the stuff we do like. Consumers aren't rational. Neither are their demands. I'm probably no more rational than anyone else, but I'm honest that I sure as hell don't want to give money to a service that is happy to host some violent folks content / garbage...
> The other truth is we're all outraged when these companies host some stuff that we don't like ... and get upset when they don't host the stuff we do like. Is this actually true? I only think certain fringe Twitter groups are mad that companies host controversial things.
Complacence might be a better descriptor than mad/outraged. For example nobody really gets up in arms over companies choosing not to host (what they deem to be) pornography for example, and various bans of risqué content and the people who produce them from major platforms tend to get a lukewarm response from people who are otherwise vocal about free speech (see: the USA's FOSTA/SESTA)
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#409The fact google is scanning people's private drive's for this sort of stuff should be scary to absolutely everyone.
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#410No one is talking about this but no matter what side you’re on, it’s terrifying that a group of individuals congregated in Menlo Park, CA and to a lesser extent few other offices around the world has become the arbitrator of the world’s information. Even if that group is benevolent and have good intentions. It’s principally wrong. These groups of people have no dissent because it gets silenced internally in Google. It’s like an unstoppable unchecked steamroller of ideas that make the world dance at their tune.
I also do not want FAANGs to spread their work culture, their shitty UI frameworks, their interview process, their politics, their methodology and engineering libraries, their philosophical stance, their morality and ultimately their influence over the rest of the world.
I love most of their products but I will not use them because of their overpowering influence. People in Australia have to deal with shitty SV culture because of these companies. It’s cancerous. It’s dangerous and it’s going to stifle freedom of information, ultimately freedom of political expression and opposition. They’re acting as government proxy but inability to vote them off. Makes me angry just thinking about it. Fuck this.