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Out of all the celebrities, Bourdain would have viscerally despised this.

He hated fake phoney people, or food.

He hated when his production crew would stovepipe his bits.

He hated a scene in Greese (I believe) where crew went out and bought squid, and threw them into the water to made the shoot better.

I really liked Bourdain. He was one of the few celebrities that didn't seem to change with fame, or money.

I watched him for years, and knew he was unhappy, but never thought suicide unhappy.

Re: Voice clone of Anthony Bourdain prompts synthetic media ethics questions

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As a viewer of the documentary, I will love that effect instead of a bland voice-over. But a note should be added on the screen that the voice is AI-generated. Like when they say a war video is a reenactment.

It would be interesting to see if recreating songs is possible, if so i would like to hear the voice of Jim morrison and Curt Cobain.

Re: Voice clone of Anthony Bourdain prompts synthetic media ethics questions

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Out of all the celebrities, Bourdain would have viscerally despised this. He hated fake phoney people, or food. He hated when his production crew would stovepipe his bits. He hated a scene in Greese (I believe) where crew went out and bought squid, and threw them into the water to made the shoot better. I really liked Bourdain. He was one of the few celebrities that didn't seem to change with fame, or money. I watche…

Agree 100%. Also just watched this episode last night, it was Sicily (Season 2)

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post #15

Out of all the celebrities, Bourdain would have viscerally despised this. He hated fake phoney people, or food. He hated when his production crew would stovepipe his bits. He hated a scene in Greese (I believe) where crew went out and bought squid, and threw them into the water to made the shoot better. I really liked Bourdain. He was one of the few celebrities that didn't seem to change with fame, or money. I watche…

Agree 100%. Also just watched this episode last night, it was Sicily (Season 2)

Important to point out it wasn’t the crew faking the scene. The guy that took him fishing had a friend throwing squid in, unashamedly. They showed the guy on camera. There was no attempt at trickery from the people producing the show.

Re: Voice clone of Anthony Bourdain prompts synthetic media ethics questions

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Out of all the celebrities, Bourdain would have viscerally despised this. He hated fake phoney people, or food. He hated when his production crew would stovepipe his bits. He hated a scene in Greese (I believe) where crew went out and bought squid, and threw them into the water to made the shoot better. I really liked Bourdain. He was one of the few celebrities that didn't seem to change with fame, or money. I watche…

After reading his books, I would agree and was hoping someone had posted this. If anyone would vehemently oppose such manipulation, it would be Anthony Bourdain. Is there a disclaimer before this scene is shown? I'll choose not to watch such a documentary created by those with skewed ethics.

Re: Voice clone of Anthony Bourdain prompts synthetic media ethics questions

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I don’t see this as any different than getting an actor to play the part. This happens all of the time in docos for a more immersive experience. JFK voice comes to mind quite a bit as an example. Is it unethical to get an actor to play his voice?

The major difference I see is that the viewer is aware that they are watching an actor. Or at least, they should be aware. It has always been standard practice to note when something being shown is a reenactment of an event, and not the actual one. Even if they used a voice actor to mimic Bourdain, they should have informed the audience that an actor was reading the script.

> It has always been standard practice to note when something being shown is a reenactment of an event, and not the actual one.

Aren't the lines being read by robo-Bourdain actual things he write and/or said?

I feel like there's a difference there even if it is a bit weird to not credit robo-Bourdain in those instances.

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I actually think getting deep fake stuff to the public is the way to go. Basically anyone can create a deep fake. It is far better to get the public used to the idea of deep fakes so they can develop some immunity to it.

I'm not sure that when you go down that rabbit hole folks will believe much at all... I don't want to go down the rabbit hole here but everyone hears about 'fake news', they know what it is, they just label things they don't like 'fake news'. I'm not sure that's helping. Either way we are going to find out.

It will get really fun when one side has the "experts" on their side and can have them vouch for the authenticity of something.

Re: Voice clone of Anthony Bourdain prompts synthetic media ethics questions

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Out of all the celebrities, Bourdain would have viscerally despised this. He hated fake phoney people, or food. He hated when his production crew would stovepipe his bits. He hated a scene in Greese (I believe) where crew went out and bought squid, and threw them into the water to made the shoot better. I really liked Bourdain. He was one of the few celebrities that didn't seem to change with fame, or money. I watche…

Just quick context on the squid bit: it wasn’t Tony’s crew (zero point zero productions), it was the combination of local fixers/boat folks who wanted to make it look like they caught fish.
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