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Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”

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The fundamental problem is that it used to invoke a cost to publish anything. Now any idiot can post things for free and the viral aspect of the systems ensures it will explode. Us humans are hardwired for new and outrageous gossip and hench the ads industry is related to this. Nothing can fix this as long as publishing is cost free. Human nature can not be fixed. Get over it and design systems which mitigate the worst part of it.

Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”

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I read regular stories on HN about employee activism on certain types of popular issues around gender and race, involving petitions and publicity. Spotify, Apple, Google. Yet nothing about the march towards totalitarianism and information control - always with good intentions and to our benefit - promulgated with stories such as this. Not a peep from our young Silicon Valley activists. Do we still teach history at sc…

Is totalitarianism when you don't let your servers be open relays for antivaxxer propaganda during a pandemic?

Soooo… The Who said the virus isn’t airborne initially. They said masks don’t work initially.

What’s your plan of action there? Google censors what the status quo asks them to and then flips and censors the other side the second they change their mind? Does that sound like a good world to you?

How exactly does long term discussion happen in that cases? Since basically by about April 2020 you’ve banned all pro mask discussion and anti mask discussion…

Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”

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post #126

I read regular stories on HN about employee activism on certain types of popular issues around gender and race, involving petitions and publicity. Spotify, Apple, Google. Yet nothing about the march towards totalitarianism and information control - always with good intentions and to our benefit - promulgated with stories such as this. Not a peep from our young Silicon Valley activists. Do we still teach history at sc…

We don’t think lies about the vaccine or who won the election are noble causes worth making sacrifices for.

Glowing example of "tossing the baby out with the bath water."

Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”

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The road to hell is paved with "good intentions". We desperately need to find a globally adoptable alternative to google and the services that it provides. Docs, Sheets, Drive, etc. are fantastic services in that they work really well on a massive scale. However, Google's increasing role as an arbiter of right vs wrong and a steward of information puts too much power into the hands of one corporation, whose best inte…

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Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”

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post #154

The road to hell is paved with "good intentions". We desperately need to find a globally adoptable alternative to google and the services that it provides. Docs, Sheets, Drive, etc. are fantastic services in that they work really well on a massive scale. However, Google's increasing role as an arbiter of right vs wrong and a steward of information puts too much power into the hands of one corporation, whose best inte…

Maybe it time we make it easy for people to host thier own clouds… Like Nextcloud. All in one at home server with Owncloud Plug-N-Play. While we are at it, have it ready to go for hosting emails and Federated Social Media. To be honest, it would be a challange, but totally doable. Decetralize the interenet once again!

Then there will be calls for cloud providers to remove "misleading" clients. (Read: AWS + Parlor, Cloudflare, etc)

What we really need is a legal designation of a "public square" online that protects free speech online

Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Saying "all the experts" think it may actually be true is a big stretch. It's far more accurate to say that the experts haven't ruled it out. But they still think natural origin is far more likely[1]. [1] https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01529-3

I thought this theory was debunked by scientists over a year ago? https://www.npr.org/2020/04/22/841925672/scientists-debunk-l...

"Debunk" is becoming quite the loaded term. For one thing it's being used definitively despite the fact that there are still ongoing debates. The other thing is that it implies a sort of finality. New evidence or the results of an investigation can pop up anytime.

Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Early on Fauci was telling everyone how useless masks were [1]. I have a couple people in my social circle that were banned from fb for saying he was wrong early on about masks being ineffective. And several others were banned later for pointing out fauci's earlier stance and calling it all propaganda. You are not allowed to think for yourself. Pick up that can. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE-XVfZCX-o

N95 masks were never useless and Fauci should be seen as a monster. What I don't understand is why there were no nations giving away n95 masks and education on how to wear it. It seems like we hivemind to the unsustainable lockdowns.

Last year in Germany you could get IIRC 7 free N95/FFP2 masks at the local pharmacy for free. The pharmacists were supposed to show you how to wear them.

Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”

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post #126

I read regular stories on HN about employee activism on certain types of popular issues around gender and race, involving petitions and publicity. Spotify, Apple, Google. Yet nothing about the march towards totalitarianism and information control - always with good intentions and to our benefit - promulgated with stories such as this. Not a peep from our young Silicon Valley activists. Do we still teach history at sc…

We don’t think lies about the vaccine or who won the election are noble causes worth making sacrifices for.

This ain't it, chief.

We shouldn't be trusting (and giving power to) central governing bodies to dictate what counts as a "lie," and scrubbing away inconvenient information.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" - Voltaire

Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”

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The road to hell is paved with "good intentions". We desperately need to find a globally adoptable alternative to google and the services that it provides. Docs, Sheets, Drive, etc. are fantastic services in that they work really well on a massive scale. However, Google's increasing role as an arbiter of right vs wrong and a steward of information puts too much power into the hands of one corporation, whose best inte…

Who wants to be a consumer company that just has an anything goes policy?

I sure as hell don't want to do it.

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