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Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”

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Post by djrogers »

djkivi wrote: post #83
drew-y wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Saying "all the experts" think it may actually be true is a big stretch. It's far more accurate to say that the experts haven't ruled it out. But they still think natural origin is far more likely[1]. [1] https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01529-3

I thought this theory was debunked by scientists over a year ago? https://www.npr.org/2020/04/22/841925672/scientists-debunk-l...

It was debunked by some scientists, but nowhere near all, and there was no consensus.

https://www.npr.org/2021/07/15/1016436749/who-chief-wuhan-la...

Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”

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Post by tablespoon »

lettergram wrote: post #143

Interesting... so I wrote a wrote an article on gun violence https://austingwalters.com/firearms-by-the-numbers/ Guess it contradicts the official position of the current administration (not reality). So will my drive content be removed? Similarly, I have been monitoring the CDC change the covid19 deaths rate over time. https://austingwalters.com/changes-in-the-cdc-counts-of-deat... It appears the CDC had been inaccu…

> Guess it contradicts the official position of the current administration (not reality). So will my drive content be removed?

Below is the actual policy. What term do you think your blog post violates?

> Do not distribute content that deceives, misleads, or confuses users. This includes:

> Misleading content related to civic and democratic processes: Content that is demonstrably false and could significantly undermine participation or trust in civic or democratic processes. This includes information about public voting procedures, political candidate eligibility based on age / birthplace, election results, or census participation that contradicts official government records. It also includes incorrect claims that a political figure or government official has died, been involved in an accident, or is suffering from a sudden serious illness.

> Misleading content related to harmful health practices: Misleading health or medical content that promotes or encourages others to engage in practices that may lead to serious physical or emotional harm to individuals, or serious public health harm.

> Manipulated media: Media that has been technically manipulated or doctored in a way that misleads users and may pose a serious risk of egregious harm.

> Misleading content may be allowed in an educational, documentary, scientific, or artistic context, but please be mindful to provide enough information to help people understand this context. In some cases, no amount of context will allow this content to remain on our platforms.

Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”

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Post by semitones »

floatingatoll wrote: post #110
s3r3nity wrote: post #51

How is this _not_ on the front page? Google is analyzing your files for content, and flagging if it doesn't align with narratives that a government body sets - and _removing all trace of that content._ If this doesn't conflict with the "hacker pathos," what the fuck is Hacker News then?

It's on the front page right now, but I'm not sure it deserves to be given the quality of HN's discussion so far. The top ten highest voted comments are essentially redundant copies of the same outrage, stated slightly differently. If everyone is just going to pile on and state how upset they are, instead of replying to each other's comments and keeping one thread for all the outrage, what's the point in bringing thi…

Why don't you be the change you want to see, and contribute constructively with your own opinion to facilitate curious and interesting discussion? Complaining about it is also not that interesting.

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Post by drluke »

semitones wrote: post #39

The road to hell is paved with "good intentions". We desperately need to find a globally adoptable alternative to google and the services that it provides. Docs, Sheets, Drive, etc. are fantastic services in that they work really well on a massive scale. However, Google's increasing role as an arbiter of right vs wrong and a steward of information puts too much power into the hands of one corporation, whose best inte…

Maybe it time we make it easy for people to host thier own clouds… Like Nextcloud. All in one at home server with Owncloud Plug-N-Play. While we are at it, have it ready to go for hosting emails and Federated Social Media.

To be honest, it would be a challange, but totally doable.

Decetralize the interenet once again!

Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”

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Post by ixacto »

jonnycomputer wrote: post #22

What. The. Hell. I suppose limiting sharing might be justified. But limiting access and/or deleting own files is outrageous. For that matter, collections of misleading content can have legitimate purposes. Such as research. Now I'm seriously considering dropping my Drive subscription. Update: I got a lot of upvotes, but tbh I may have misunderstood the new policy, which does seem to (maybe?) only be limited to distri…

Does this apply to google workspace (paying)customers too?

If so google is actually scanning what is supposed to be private information.

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Post by _2d30 »

mancerayder wrote: post #105

I read regular stories on HN about employee activism on certain types of popular issues around gender and race, involving petitions and publicity. Spotify, Apple, Google. Yet nothing about the march towards totalitarianism and information control - always with good intentions and to our benefit - promulgated with stories such as this. Not a peep from our young Silicon Valley activists. Do we still teach history at sc…

Join one of these companies and what you will find is that:

> Not a peep from our young Silicon Valley activists.

are the ones pushing FOR these changes.

Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”

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Post by ehsankia »

Not sure if related, but for the past 2 months, on a daily basis, sometimes 2-3 times per day, I get a Drive notification about someone "resolving a comment" with me tagged, and the document is naked ladies and other pornographic ads.

Generally by the time I get to the document, it's gone, and otherwise I mark it as spam, but it hasn't put a dent in the daily notifications I receive...

Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”

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Post by semitones »

efsavage wrote: post #131
semitones wrote: post #39

The road to hell is paved with "good intentions". We desperately need to find a globally adoptable alternative to google and the services that it provides. Docs, Sheets, Drive, etc. are fantastic services in that they work really well on a massive scale. However, Google's increasing role as an arbiter of right vs wrong and a steward of information puts too much power into the hands of one corporation, whose best inte…

I think there's a vacuum here in that society wants someone to intervene when Bad Things Happen, but we either can't agree who that should be or (more likely IMO) the right choice of person/organization just doesn't exist. So you end up with some people/organizations/governments stepping up to increase their power and/or protect their own interests. I think this is why Zuckerberg and some other big players have calle…

This is also probably why Google is advocating for the privacy sandbox and banning third-party-cookies, and staying ahead of the law tech-wise. Such that when the inevitable regulation of the playing field does come, they are sharing drinks and chuckling with the referees, while the other players are still struggling to figure out what their game plan is.

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Post by LegitShady »

guelo wrote: post #126
mancerayder wrote: post #105

I read regular stories on HN about employee activism on certain types of popular issues around gender and race, involving petitions and publicity. Spotify, Apple, Google. Yet nothing about the march towards totalitarianism and information control - always with good intentions and to our benefit - promulgated with stories such as this. Not a peep from our young Silicon Valley activists. Do we still teach history at sc…

We don’t think lies about the vaccine or who won the election are noble causes worth making sacrifices for.

Once you put the structures in place you don’t get to choose what gets censored. You’re arming a terrible weapon that will already be used against you on the pretext that it will only be used for these two things - and it won’t be only used for those things.

Terrible short sightedness.

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