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Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”

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Their definition of misleading says it "includes information [...] that contradicts official government records". Because no government record has ever been wrong before, right?

Early on Fauci was telling everyone how useless masks were [1].

I have a couple people in my social circle that were banned from fb for saying he was wrong early on about masks being ineffective. And several others were banned later for pointing out fauci's earlier stance and calling it all propaganda. You are not allowed to think for yourself. Pick up that can.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE-XVfZCX-o

Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”

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It's not entirely clear to me which of these policies apply to any and all content you upload without sharing externally.

Both the misleading content and sexually explicit material sections start with "Do not distribute content...". So does that mean as long as I don't enable sharing, I'm free to upload such content? If I'm the only person who can access these files, then I'm not distributing it surely.

I also find it curious the section on circumvention makes no mention of the use of encryption. I suppose doing so would show imply Google scans your content and use such techniques to find files in violation of their policies. With that not explicitly banned, I'll continue to use Cryptomator to keep my private documents out of Google's hands.

Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”

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The road to hell is paved with "good intentions". We desperately need to find a globally adoptable alternative to google and the services that it provides. Docs, Sheets, Drive, etc. are fantastic services in that they work really well on a massive scale. However, Google's increasing role as an arbiter of right vs wrong and a steward of information puts too much power into the hands of one corporation, whose best inte…

All these services are easy to replace. What isn't yet available elsewhere is the content discovery possibilities provided by Youtube, especially what would be considered "pirated" content on other sites without deep ties to the government (e.g. full CDs, movies that get uploaded and stay on yt for a long time, to be downloaded by millions).

"All these services are easy to replace" - I would like to agree, but I think that statement trivializes the endeavor a bit too much.

For Docs for example: Sure, from a technical standpoint, creating a webapp that lets you modify a document, syncs over new changes on a regular basis, and lets multiple users collaborate on the same doc and the same time is certainly harder than making a hello world calculator, but it's definitely not that hard. Most of us could figure out how to do it, especially since it's 2021 and our hardware is up to the task.

However, what is stupidly non-easy, is getting billions of people to use your solution, and for it to become the "standard" in society, for powerusers and non-powerusers alike, and for it not to have hiccups when a billion people use it. Oh, also, you need to somehow pay for the physical infrastructure that supports it, and the human beings that maintain it (hardware + software).

The situation would be even more complicated for YouTube because of the nature of the content, i.e. a single video on YouTube might be viewed by billions of people, while even the most popular docs are viewed by thousands at most, and even then making a copy of a text document to then distribute off-platform is pretty trivial.

And yes, we can spit out terms like blockchain w/ proof of stake, IPFS, etc. - but the tech isn't even the hard part, it's everything else that's hard (adoption, consensus, complexity for non-powerusers, funding, etc.)

Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”

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It's an interesting form of curation, as if something has been censored, now that's something I'm interested in knowing about. Dangerous means powerful, and powerful is valuable. Most of everything is crap, but what's not crap is stuff that genuinely puts dominant narratives at risk.

I can't remember the name of it, but there is a feature of change in systems that has to do with complexity, where the change happens rapidly as the result of explosive exponential growth, and not relatively linear increments (period doubling?). In that view, something being censored is a good leading indicator that it's a candidate for sudden growth.

Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”

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post #61

The road to hell is paved with "good intentions". We desperately need to find a globally adoptable alternative to google and the services that it provides. Docs, Sheets, Drive, etc. are fantastic services in that they work really well on a massive scale. However, Google's increasing role as an arbiter of right vs wrong and a steward of information puts too much power into the hands of one corporation, whose best inte…

Google docs etc aren't even Google's inventions, Google just bought them. I think it's important to emphasize that, to dispel the notion that you need to be a big company to make a product like that.

I agree that you do not have to be a big company to make a product like that, but it seems like you have to be a big company in order to host and deliver it.

Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Drive is a storage service.. I don't expect Google to moderate any of my content, as long as it is legal.

This is about _distribution_.

Imagine the same policy with GMail. Captive audience, because changing your address after 10 years is complicated. And suddenly Google decides what ideas are you allowed to discuss over e-mail with other people. Because that is distribution, m'kay?

Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Something that now all the experts are saying may actually be true Since this is blatantly false, I would ban this as misinformation if it happened in a place I moderated. I'm don't care if it's about China, I care about not enabling misinformation. If people want conspiracy theories, there are friendly forums they could visit, but they want them in serious forums too.

WHO Chief, yesterday, admits ruling out the lab leak theory was premature. It's not blatantly false unless the WHO Chief is propping up conspiracy theories now. https://www.npr.org/2021/07/15/1016436749/who-chief-wuhan-la...

I agree it's among the possibilities, but one should be honest about their likelihood. Right now the consensus is that natural occurrence is the most likely explanation, but there is not solid evidence to discard a lab leak.

They don't have solid evidence to disprove a lab leak. Disproving is a lot harder that proving.

I must concede that your statement wasn't blatantly false, but it uses weasel language to appear more truthful than it is.

Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Drive is a storage service.. I don't expect Google to moderate any of my content, as long as it is legal.

This is about _distribution_.

What if I write a paper disputing incorrect information, and cite the incorrect information's source? Now I am censured.
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