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Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”

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Post by andai »

semitones wrote: post #39

The road to hell is paved with "good intentions". We desperately need to find a globally adoptable alternative to google and the services that it provides. Docs, Sheets, Drive, etc. are fantastic services in that they work really well on a massive scale. However, Google's increasing role as an arbiter of right vs wrong and a steward of information puts too much power into the hands of one corporation, whose best inte…

Google docs etc aren't even Google's inventions, Google just bought them. I think it's important to emphasize that, to dispel the notion that you need to be a big company to make a product like that.

Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”

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Post by syshum »

tpolzer wrote: post #32
jonnycomputer wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Drive is a storage service.. I don't expect Google to moderate any of my content, as long as it is legal.

This is about _distribution_.

Drive is a storage service.. I don't expect Google to moderate any of my content, as long as it is legal.

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Post by andai »

lazyjones wrote: post #58
semitones wrote: post #39

The road to hell is paved with "good intentions". We desperately need to find a globally adoptable alternative to google and the services that it provides. Docs, Sheets, Drive, etc. are fantastic services in that they work really well on a massive scale. However, Google's increasing role as an arbiter of right vs wrong and a steward of information puts too much power into the hands of one corporation, whose best inte…

All these services are easy to replace. What isn't yet available elsewhere is the content discovery possibilities provided by Youtube, especially what would be considered "pirated" content on other sites without deep ties to the government (e.g. full CDs, movies that get uploaded and stay on yt for a long time, to be downloaded by millions).

A search engine for videos?

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Post by Negitivefrags »

josephcsible wrote: post #13

Their definition of misleading says it "includes information [...] that contradicts official government records". Because no government record has ever been wrong before, right?

It’s amazing to see an authoritarian regime establish itself in real time in front of our eyes.

It’s so easy to look at the past and think “How did people let this happen?”.

And yet here we are.

I hope stopping the anti-vaxers and election fraud people is worth it.

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Post by josephcsible »

judah wrote: post #59
josephcsible wrote: post #13

Their definition of misleading says it "includes information [...] that contradicts official government records". Because no government record has ever been wrong before, right?

I was shocked as you until I read the actual text. Banned misinformation "includes _census participation_ that contradicts official government records." Census participation. For example, "You didn't register in the census last year? You're ineligible to vote." It's aimed at misinformation that discourages people from voting. That seems much more reasonable, and far more precise, than information that contradicts any…

Census participation was the last entry in the list. I think that clause is meant to cover the entire list, not just its last entry.

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Post by bilbo0s »

lazyjones wrote: post #58
semitones wrote: post #39

The road to hell is paved with "good intentions". We desperately need to find a globally adoptable alternative to google and the services that it provides. Docs, Sheets, Drive, etc. are fantastic services in that they work really well on a massive scale. However, Google's increasing role as an arbiter of right vs wrong and a steward of information puts too much power into the hands of one corporation, whose best inte…

All these services are easy to replace. What isn't yet available elsewhere is the content discovery possibilities provided by Youtube, especially what would be considered "pirated" content on other sites without deep ties to the government (e.g. full CDs, movies that get uploaded and stay on yt for a long time, to be downloaded by millions).

Deep ties to the government alone won't do it. You'll need deep ties to these content industries, and that will cost you money. Google has it. Most startups probably won't.

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Post by tobinfekkes »

Well isn't this just rich (in a poor way), considering Google is notorious over the years for making the display of their ad placements harder and harder to differentiate from actual search results, thus more and more misleading....

Can we ban that too?

Give me a break.

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #52
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #7

Amazing they have the gall to think they still can arbiter truth, considering how YouTube up until recently was banning the "conspiracy theory" that the recent pandemic may have originated from a Wuhan Lab... Something that now all the experts are saying may actually be true.

> Something that now all the experts are saying may actually be true Since this is blatantly false, I would ban this as misinformation if it happened in a place I moderated. I'm don't care if it's about China, I care about not enabling misinformation. If people want conspiracy theories, there are friendly forums they could visit, but they want them in serious forums too.

WHO Chief, yesterday, admits ruling out the lab leak theory was premature. It's not blatantly false unless the WHO Chief is propping up conspiracy theories now.

https://www.npr.org/2021/07/15/1016436749/who-chief-wuhan-la...

Re: Google Drive bans distribution of “misleading content”

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Post by nazgulsenpai »

jonnycomputer wrote: post #34
bootaccount wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

why consider it when you can do it? Behavior can only change when there's a massive drop in MAU and revenue, then the product team will consider backtracking

Because it would be a major inconvenience for me, that's why. Update: I'm getting a lot of criticism here. If your aim is to try to get me to actually make the switch, then the approach you are taking is counter-productive. Instead, I guess you are doing what most people do when faced with something they disapprove of: they do the thing that is easiest and most satisfying, which is to criticize or punish the other pe…

I dropped Google Drive late last year and it wasn't too bad. Setup another service, made a directory junction from GoogleDrive folder to new folder, profit.
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