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Re: Hyperarchy: Democracy for the Digital Era

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Post by skybus » Tue, Jul 19, 2011, 8:25 PM UTC

sp332 wrote: post #38

zeemonkee wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OK. So suppose your voting preferences are available online. Your boss happens to be a friend of the candidate, or a member of a political party. You are told to vote a certain way or lose your job. You are turned down for a bank loan because your bank manager doesn't like liberals. You are refused an apartment because the people on your street don't like conservatives. You fail at an interview because the interviewe…

WTF? Maybe the interviewer only hires tall people, or the people on your street don't like your race, or you are turned down for a bank loan because you're a woman. There are lots of stupid prejudices in the world, but people don't go around hiding who they are all the time. It's just not worth it.

The identities people have difficulty obscuring (gender, skin color, weight, etc) just so happen to be the aspects that have the most enduring prejudice against them.

Re: Hyperarchy: Democracy for the Digital Era

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Post by alissa » Tue, Jul 19, 2011, 9:55 PM UTC

Ronkdar wrote: post #2

It's an interesting idea, but I see some major problems. 1) It's currently impossible to tie a person down to a single online entity. There's quite a lot of inertia/sentiment preventing this sort of situation. If you can't insure that each person only gets one voice, then the system breaks. 2) What happens when the Goon Swarm arrives? No, I'm serious. It's hard to troll the government as it stands today. The internet…

Alex Howard suggested this link to me about how one country is using Bank Accounts for authentication. what do you think of THAT idea??

http://egovau.blogspot.com/2011/06/turning-open-government-p...

Re: Hyperarchy: Democracy for the Digital Era

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Post by alissa » Tue, Jul 19, 2011, 10:00 PM UTC

espeed wrote: post #36

Where is the contact info for the people behind Hyperarchy? This is similar in concept to something I published a few years ago called "The Electors" ( http://theelectors.org/ ), and it would be cool to chat with the Hyperarchy crew.

nathan@hyperarchy.com, maxbrunsfeld@gmail.com they would love to talk to you. i am alissa@hperarchy.com, their sister/gf respectively, so i help them in my free time get in touch with interested people and whatnot!

Re: Hyperarchy: Democracy for the Digital Era

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Post by kdeldycke » Wed, Jul 20, 2011, 2:46 PM UTC

vannevar wrote: post #4

I like some of these ideas, particularly the flexible system of delegation. But right now the issue-ranking system seems like a weak link. It's too simplistic and could easily devolve into an exercise in voting on bumper-sticker slogans. There should be tools for more reasoned exploration of the issues, like an argument mapping tool for instance ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_map ). Don't just let me vote on…

The concept of Hyperarchy was already explored by demexp.org. Look for instance at the aspect of vote delegation: http://www.demexp.org/dokuwiki/description_of_the_political_...