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Startup Airline to offer all-you-can-fly subscriptions for $150/m
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Re: Startup Airline to offer all-you-can-fly subscriptions for $150/m
#12More from Forbes: http://blogs.forbes.com/edzitron/2011/06/29/planered/
Interestingly, they will exclusively fly 9-passenger planes in order to skirt the TSA rule of screening for planes that fly 10 or more.
I must be the only one that doesn't mind going through the TSA screening. It usually takes 2 minutes and isn't a big deal. The fact that these guys circumvent the TSA screening rule could almost make PlaneRed flights a greater target for malicious activity.
Re: Startup Airline to offer all-you-can-fly subscriptions for $150/m
#13More from Forbes: http://blogs.forbes.com/edzitron/2011/06/29/planered/
Interestingly, they will exclusively fly 9-passenger planes in order to skirt the TSA rule of screening for planes that fly 10 or more.
Strangely the article references both 9 passenger and 14 passenger planes...
"fly just below the TSA’s radar – using 9-person planes to dodge under their screening of any plane carrying over 10 passengers."
then: "14-passenger planes organized in a luxury set-up to make the journey just a little bit more pleasant."
Re: Startup Airline to offer all-you-can-fly subscriptions for $150/m
#14A two hour flight would cost at the very minimum $6000. With a maximum of 10 passengers, that works out to $600/ per passenger. I don't understand how they can offer this for $150/mo. Perhaps they bombard passengers with advertisements or do scientific experiments to them.
Re: Startup Airline to offer all-you-can-fly subscriptions for $150/m
#15From the welcome email, which also links to their blog http://planered.tumblr.com/ : Thanks for signing up! Our goal is to change the way we fly. No more buying outrageously priced tickets. No more lost luggage. No more middle seats in a cramped cabin. And no more TSA. By signing up we'll make sure you know what's happening as we build our airline - and you'll be among the first to know when we're ready to launch. A…
It was my knowledge that it was difficult to go lower on prices in any way without losing money?
The larger planes could take advantage of economies of scale, the only way to get lower fares would be to drastically reduce the cost of flying a plane in the first place.
No lost luggage, more spacious interiors, and less TSA are always selling points though.
Re: Startup Airline to offer all-you-can-fly subscriptions for $150/m
#16This is a really tough sell... There is no screening for planes smaller than 10 passengers if there is no "sterile" area at either airport. This means that they'll have to fly into smaller airports, which (often) means you're further from the city, with no rental car, public transportation, etc.
They will likely be flying small propeller planes, which many people don't like... props make sense for these short routes though because they are often faster, based on the fact that there is less time for takeoff and landing (they don't spend as much time "reaching altitude")
I also don't like that they are trying to bootstrap based on folks buying these subscriptions which they have yet to launch, and that they plan to launch in a month. Very pyramid-scheme-like.
I would love for it to work, but I just can't see this business model surviving. It reminds me a bit of independence air and Dayjet, both of which lasted less than a year.
Also, this doesn't inspire confidence: https://twitter.com/#!/PlaneRed/status/93572991077715968
Re: Startup Airline to offer all-you-can-fly subscriptions for $150/m
#17More from Forbes: http://blogs.forbes.com/edzitron/2011/06/29/planered/
Interestingly, they will exclusively fly 9-passenger planes in order to skirt the TSA rule of screening for planes that fly 10 or more.
Did the TSA determined that nine-passenger planes aren’t big enough to do anything significant if they’re hijacked, or did they determine that anyone who can afford to fly on a 9-passenger plane is too rich to suffer the same screening that us mere mortals have to go through?
Re: Startup Airline to offer all-you-can-fly subscriptions for $150/m
#18skip TSA
Excuse me? This entire idea, even if realistic, is fraught with political risk: "Oh, you're flying 9 person-planes to avoid our law? One of the major airlines is lobbying against you? Well... time to change the law."
Re: Startup Airline to offer all-you-can-fly subscriptions for $150/m
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interestingly, they will exclusively fly 9-passenger planes in order to skirt the TSA rule of screening for planes that fly 10 or more.
Strangely the article references both 9 passenger and 14 passenger planes... "fly just below the TSA’s radar – using 9-person planes to dodge under their screening of any plane carrying over 10 passengers." then: "14-passenger planes organized in a luxury set-up to make the journey just a little bit more pleasant."
What they are saying is that they are planning to remove 5 seats of a 14 passenger planer and reposition the others in order to make more legroom.
Re: Startup Airline to offer all-you-can-fly subscriptions for $150/m
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interestingly, they will exclusively fly 9-passenger planes in order to skirt the TSA rule of screening for planes that fly 10 or more.
Strangely the article references both 9 passenger and 14 passenger planes... "fly just below the TSA’s radar – using 9-person planes to dodge under their screening of any plane carrying over 10 passengers." then: "14-passenger planes organized in a luxury set-up to make the journey just a little bit more pleasant."
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