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It's been three years. Stop saying your European visitors are important to you

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Re: It's been three years. Stop saying your European visitors are important to you

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Toxic positivity. It's a pervasive feature of American culture.

I think this is more an example of what we call “bullshit.” There’s a lot of it.

In America we particularly have a lot of "bullshit we think protects us from lawsuits even if it really doesn't".

Re: It's been three years. Stop saying your European visitors are important to you

#82

Maybe the cost of GDPR compliance just isn't worth the small amount of revenue that they might make from European visitors? US visitors are probably much more 'valuable' in terms of advertisement revenue, and also much more likely to be a subscriber. And I say this as a European myself. It sucks that I have to jump through hoops to access some sites but I can't really blame them.

IANAL, but can't they just word a disclaimer and checkbox? Something like:

"Our European visitors are important to us... but the cost of GDPR-compliance for a US-focused site is high. For your own GDPR protection, we advise you not to access our site. However, if you choose to do so, you agree to waive any and all rights granted to you under the GDPR. [ ] Agree"

Re: It's been three years. Stop saying your European visitors are important to you

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Maybe the blocked content is just divine retribution for the abhorrent cookie consent buttons we all have to press 20 times a day now.

I've never even been to Europe, and I still get them. What are we Americans, chopped liver?

Looks like sites "care about you" just as much as they do about Europeans.

Re: It's been three years. Stop saying your European visitors are important to you

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Maybe the blocked content is just divine retribution for the abhorrent cookie consent buttons we all have to press 20 times a day now.

I recommend the Consent-O-Matic browser extension and failing that, the "I don't care about cookies" browser extension. https://github.com/cavi-au/Consent-O-Matic https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/

... only when paired with cookie browser settings switched to strict blocking.

Re: It's been three years. Stop saying your European visitors are important to you

#85

I'm European and I block EU customers as well (mainly for VATMOSS though, more than GDPR, albeit I'm not sure whether I'm GDPR ready or not). Simply put, it's a very low margin and low time investment business on my side and I'd rather work on something that can make me more money than to implement the required changes to support Europe's regulatory plat du jour. Having worked in big businesses, even if they have the…

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Re: It's been three years. Stop saying your European visitors are important to you

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd love to know how much an American user's data is worth and what percentage of clicks belong to European domains. I know the pervasiveness of the phrase no such thing as a free lunch , but is there really so much revenue lost by not harvesting data? (And yes, it doesn't take an MBA to notice any revenue loss should be avoided, so I understand the reluctance to publish to any market for free.)

I think the problem is not necessarily the loss in revenue due to "not harvesting data" but rather the cost of all the compliance measures and new processes the GDPR requires.

Three years was long enough to figure out that they do not actually find Europeans (or Americans residing in Europe) important.

Change the text.

Re: It's been three years. Stop saying your European visitors are important to you

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“We care about your privacy.” is also a real joker. Those boxes often provide no “opt-out all” button and force you to “object” to “legitimate interests” one-by-one even if you do “opt-out”.

How GDPR is implemented is a total shitshow. It clearly says that it's an OPT-IN, not opt-out and one has to uncheck everything one by one. We're creating a fucking dystopia just to click on more ads.

I used to see only that, but lately I've been seeing cases where once you choose the "manage cookies" option, all the nonessential cookies are opted out by default.

Re: It's been three years. Stop saying your European visitors are important to you

#90

I always read this as: "Our European visitors are important to us BUT vacuuming all your data and selling to multiple bidders is importanter " You wanna be obnoxious? Sure, go ahead, but I'll dislike your site more (and I have adblock so I have no qualms in accepting). Wanna pretend you're compliant by having an obvious non-compliant "solution" and think that will shield your responsibility? Now I'll just hate you an…

Except the GDPR doesn't work as sold.

More accurate to say "businesses don't do as told".
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