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Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Re: Valve Steam Deck

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I'm going to use it as a (mobile NUC with screen + battery) and use it for programming etc.. not going to buy it for gaming at all. Having an amd machine with 16Gb ram + nvme storage + linux - perfect setup for day to day coding! And will buy it as a thank you to Valve for supporting us all these years. I think this will pay off for them in the long run.

With a 7inch screen, 2 hours battery life when pushing it, and no keyboard (i.e. extra £££)? I think I'd prefer a mid-range laptop.

The intention is to use it with a usb-c dock, which I already own. Will probably buy the steam dock depending on what it offers and if it overlaps with my needs. Or if it is just plain sexy compared to the boring old usb-c dock then I'd rather buy that. The intention is not to get work done on a 7" screen, but on an external display + keyboard/mouse.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm going to use it as a (mobile NUC with screen + battery) and use it for programming etc.. not going to buy it for gaming at all. Having an amd machine with 16Gb ram + nvme storage + linux - perfect setup for day to day coding! And will buy it as a thank you to Valve for supporting us all these years. I think this will pay off for them in the long run.

Can't imagine coding without a good keyboard though. And mobile mechanical keyboards are too heavy to carry around. It should be great for debugging random server problems while on vacation though.

It supports usb type c docks, which my mic, keyboard, mouse already uses to switch between my main rig and a macbook. And I have a bluetooth mouse of that fails.

Obviously not going to try be productive with an onscreen keyboard and 7" screen - will use it with peripherals in those cases.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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The Valve Steam Deck is pretty exciting and well timed.

The Nintendo Switch it the largest console market > 50% and mobile is the biggest market in gaming. So going with that model but with gaming selection of Steam is a smart timed move.

The size of gaming markets are mobile first as the biggest, then PC, then console in terms of gamers with revenues about split in thirds equally across mobile, PC and console -- including handheld the biggest part[1]. Mobile has a bit more than the others and when handheld it not included in console then it is the top. Mobile has 2.2 billion gamers, PC has 750 million, console has just a bit less than PC around 700 million [1]. Though each stationary console has had less than the last in total players, most players are still growing on mobile and even PC [1]. There are also more game developer on PC by 2 to 1 over other platforms, mobile second then console. Developing for console is costly and time consuming.

Consoles that go handheld are smart, even better if they are more open and allow game studios of all sizes to launch on it, games will be better at the high end, even if there are more bad games.

Since consoles like Microsoft Xbox, Sony Playstation and Nintendo are so locked down and hard to enter for indies/small/medium players, PC going handheld/mobile is going to be great for indies/small/medium game developers extending the PC player base. Mobile opened up stores for everyone in 2008-2012, Steam opened up 2012+ and game markets should be more open, especially console as you want to sell hardware and the more games the better.

The first iteration of the handheld hardware may or may not hit, even the WiiU failed initially, but the beauty of Steam is there are no games you can or can't play on specific consoles. They don't need launch titles. Steam Deck gen 1, 2, 3 will all have the same games. Steam has a competitive advantage here on selection due to their openness.

Consoles and PCs are stationary and that is why mobile does so well, you can play anywhere. Handheld does well as well because you can take it with you and can game at a desk or on the couch or at work. Game streaming changes this a bit allowing you to game on your devices on the go, but having a beefier device that can play all types of games is surely going to have at least some market. Lots of times I am working on my PC and shutting all down to game seems too tasking but you could play Steam games on the Deck while keeping work open or allow gaming to fit in your day more when you aren't at your PC.

Very, very excited for the larger potential market for PC games on a handheld console! This massively helps indie/small/medium players get more gamers and handheld is a unique new market for PC games.

[1] https://www.gamingscan.com/gaming-statistics/

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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From the FAQ [0]: - What OS is Steam Deck running? SteamOS 3.0, a new version of SteamOS based on Arch Linux. - Will people be able to install Windows, or other 3rd party content? Yes. Steam Deck is a PC, and players will be able to install whatever they like, including other OSes. [0]: https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/steamdeck/faq

I’m super excited to see that they’ve chosen Arch as a base for SteamOS. I understand fully why they originally chose Ubuntu, but I feel like Arch actually hits a lot of sweet spots for consumer use cases and could be adapted for such use quite effectively. (To be fair, I feel similarly about Gentoo, which was similarly adapted for ChromeOS quite successfully.)

I'd be more exited if it used Nix

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Valve, you created a lot of products that were great but then you dropped them for some or another reason. I would like for once for you to keep working on a singular product, release multiple iterations, make it better and make it the market leader.

I'm looking forward to the 2nd generation of Steam Deck. There won't be a 3rd as we all know.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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From the FAQ [0]: - What OS is Steam Deck running? SteamOS 3.0, a new version of SteamOS based on Arch Linux. - Will people be able to install Windows, or other 3rd party content? Yes. Steam Deck is a PC, and players will be able to install whatever they like, including other OSes. [0]: https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/steamdeck/faq

Arch Linux is amazing. The biggest surprise for me was that it's more stable than so-called stable distros, probably because the various packages don't end up drifting several months from each other when keeping up to date. Hopefully this eventually results in more user friendly Arch Linux installers. The learning curve is an absolute wall when installing, even after several years on Linux, but after that it's pretty…

Fun fact: the "learning curve" was initially meant as having time on the x-axis and knowledge on the y-axis.

Thus your expression "an absolute wall" would mean that you immediately grasp everything there is to know.

But since the meaning since has unintentionally shifted and the original meaning is universally ignored, we all understand you.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

#908
Imagine if Apple made the Steam Deck with the M-series processors. Would probably have more power with 2x the battery life and 200g less weight.

But you'd be stuck playing p2w RTS games and gachas.

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Imagine if Apple made the Steam Deck with the M-series processors. Would probably have more power with 2x the battery life and 200g less weight. But you'd be stuck playing p2w RTS games and gachas.

And cost five times as much, wouldn't run a customisable OS, hardware couldn't be upgraded, no ports unless you bought a two extra dongles and included a free game from U2.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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From the FAQ [0]: - What OS is Steam Deck running? SteamOS 3.0, a new version of SteamOS based on Arch Linux. - Will people be able to install Windows, or other 3rd party content? Yes. Steam Deck is a PC, and players will be able to install whatever they like, including other OSes. [0]: https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/steamdeck/faq

Arch Linux is amazing. The biggest surprise for me was that it's more stable than so-called stable distros, probably because the various packages don't end up drifting several months from each other when keeping up to date. Hopefully this eventually results in more user friendly Arch Linux installers. The learning curve is an absolute wall when installing, even after several years on Linux, but after that it's pretty…

> The learning curve is an absolute wall when installing, even after several years on Linux, but after that it's pretty standard.

I'm surprised, I found it very easy to get into Arch linux. But I came from distributions like Slackware & Gentoo where it was common to do the installation almost entirely from commands in the terminal.

IMO distributions that keep the installation primarily command-line focused are a good way for beginners to get started, it gives them a real grasp of how linux works, and how to change things to suit.

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