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Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by heelix »

everyone wrote: post #64

So, I guess its plays only games from Steam? I'm curious, does every game on Steam run on SteamOS? cus SteamOS is Linux.

I ran Steam on Centos. You had to do some conversion to get the Steam app into an RPM format (or use one of the relases that did it for you). I've messed with it on Centos, Ubuntu, and even played with SteamOS.

Last time I did this with Centos 8 and the AMD proprietary drivers, it looked like this

sudo yum update -y (reboot)

sudo yum install -y kernel-headers-`uname -r` kernel-devel-`uname -r`

sudo dnf -y install --nogpgcheck https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/epel-release-latest-8.... https://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/el/rpmfusion-free-relea... https://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/el/rpmfusion-nonfree...

sudo dnf config-manager --enable PowerTools sudo yum -y install dkms sudo dnf config-manager --add-repo=https://negativo17.org/repos/fedora-steam.repo sudo dnf -y install steam kernel-modules-extra libva-intel-driver

(reboot)

( https://www.amd.com/en/support, grabbing the RX580 driver)

tar -Jxvf amdgpu-pro-19.50-967956-rhel-8.1.tar.xz cd amdgpu-pro-19.50-967956-rhel-8.1/ ./amdgpu-pro-install -y

(reboot)

Mind you, you don't need the AMD propriety drivers. I'm also still trying to figure out what my long term home will be for my workstation once Centos 8 becomes Centos Streams.... so will be seeing if Rocky or one of the others becomes my long term home.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by qwertox »

Nice hardware specs[1]. It's really delightful to see such relatively powerful hardware in that form factor, because if stuff like this catches on, it will only push the market of those small form factor PCs which make really good home servers. Like the industrial SBCs that can be found on http://linuxgizmos.com/

If I were into gaming, I'd definitely consider getting one of these.

[1] https://www.steamdeck.com/en/tech

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by mehlmao »

caslon wrote: post #38

First impressions: Really good hardware for the price. They fixed the worst thing about SteamOS: It's now got an Arch base. They're definitely overcharging for storage, but I imagine it'll be easy enough to modify one, so it probably doesn't matter much. Why is any company having more USB-2 slots than USB-3 these days? Going with a relatively low resolution compared to modern ones is actually a surprisingly smart mov…

My assumption is that the intended use of the USB 2.0 ports are mouse + keyboard.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by caconym_ »

echelon wrote: post #54

This looks like it will trounce the Nintendo Switch. Nintendo doesn't even have new hardware in the pipeline other than an iterative OLED screen. Now that Nintendo depends on a single portable console, is there a risk that they'll go the way of Sega?

No way. Nintendo's success isn't about the hardware specs, and characterizing the Switch as a "portable console" doesn't capture it well. It has first-class support for traditional "couch gaming".

The Steam Deck will be a great complement to traditional PCs for people who are already bought into that ecosystem. For people who aren't, the console offerings from Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft are similarly priced and have obvious advantages.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by depressedpanda »

jchw wrote: post #263
css wrote: post #135

From the FAQ [0]: - What OS is Steam Deck running? SteamOS 3.0, a new version of SteamOS based on Arch Linux. - Will people be able to install Windows, or other 3rd party content? Yes. Steam Deck is a PC, and players will be able to install whatever they like, including other OSes. [0]: https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/steamdeck/faq

I’m super excited to see that they’ve chosen Arch as a base for SteamOS. I understand fully why they originally chose Ubuntu, but I feel like Arch actually hits a lot of sweet spots for consumer use cases and could be adapted for such use quite effectively. (To be fair, I feel similarly about Gentoo, which was similarly adapted for ChromeOS quite successfully.)

I'm fairly certain SteamOS was based on Debian, not Ubuntu.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by 0-_-0 »

Blackthorn wrote: post #144
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #56

Gotta admit, I never saw that coming. I thought SteamOS was dead after the failure of Steam Machines and Valve was only continuing with their Linux efforts because it's still a useful hedge against Microsoft locking everyone in the App Store. I totally did not expect them to copy the Switch use-case with it. I'm anxious to see how this turns out. Valve's history with hardware is not so great, so it could go nowhere l…

Did the steam link really go nowhere? I have a physical box, and it works magically well. My understanding is it's still available, just not as a physical box.

It works, but if you have an nvidia GPU Moonlight works better.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by Nullabillity »

css wrote: post #240
minimaxir wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Valve engineers explicitly frame the Steam Deck as a PC with an integrated controller rather than a game console: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLtiRGTZvGM

Yeah, this is an awesome change of pace for an industry that notoriously locks down its hardware.

While I am happy to hear this, this is par for the course for Valve.

The Steam Machines were also equally open, and the (otherwise streaming-focused) Steam Link supported sideloading.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by ranger207 »

heelix wrote: post #461
everyone wrote: post #64

So, I guess its plays only games from Steam? I'm curious, does every game on Steam run on SteamOS? cus SteamOS is Linux.

I ran Steam on Centos. You had to do some conversion to get the Steam app into an RPM format (or use one of the relases that did it for you). I've messed with it on Centos, Ubuntu, and even played with SteamOS. Last time I did this with Centos 8 and the AMD proprietary drivers, it looked like this sudo yum update -y (reboot) sudo yum install -y kernel-headers-`uname -r` kernel-devel-`uname -r` sudo dnf -y install --n…

Just curious, why not Fedora?

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by freeflight »

Thaxll wrote: post #262
dantondwa wrote: post #184

And so, this is what Proton was for. Hope this is a success, as the success of Linux as a gaming platform is strictly linked to the success of this. It does look very appealing: it could become a Switch with the whole PC library available. Damn cool.

" PC library available" That's the problem proton does not run all the games.

Proton supports around 15.000 games [0], I couldn't find a concrete number for all games on Switch, but this list [1] has around 4.000 of them.

[0] https://www.protondb.com/

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_Switch_games_...

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