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Remove any Site From Google (even if you don't control it)

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Re: Remove any Site From Google (even if you don't control it)

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The article delivers. Why is this linkbait?

How does the article deliver? I don't see, in the comments on his blog or here, any evidence that this has been independently reproduced. He's got a description, and some "screenshots" and, oh, Google seems to already have fixed it. How... convenient? I'm not saying it's fake, but I don't see any reason to believe it. Am I missing something?

You have unreasonable standards of evidence. He is not claiming to have seen Bigfoot, he has found a vulnerability in a web service.

Re: Remove any Site From Google (even if you don't control it)

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My favorite has always been the google apps problems that tell you to contact support to get a resolution but you can only contact support if you are a paying customer. support is not google's strong suit.

I am a google apps paying customer and it took them 4 weeks to get my domain issue corrected ! In that time i wasnt able to get mail so i had to change my mail to use godaddy until they got back to me. When they finally did they said it was because my dns records were pointing to godaddy ! After 1 week of not getting mails i would say an alternative is required. I actually had a feeling that this would happen :) I re…

thanks, always avoided paying them because i thought the experience would be like that...

Re: Remove any Site From Google (even if you don't control it)

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otherwise although it is a loophole I am pretty sure it is illegal. It would seem that this is illegal, but I've never heard of a law protecting one's right to be listed in a search engine. Perhaps, if this process requires you to be the owner, it qualifies as fraud?

In germany, you might have a stab at sueing for lost income, for example if you are a shop with a large number coming from google search, or if you get large amounts of ad revenue from visitors from google.

Re: Remove any Site From Google (even if you don't control it)

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My favorite has always been the google apps problems that tell you to contact support to get a resolution but you can only contact support if you are a paying customer. support is not google's strong suit.

I am a google apps paying customer and it took them 4 weeks to get my domain issue corrected ! In that time i wasnt able to get mail so i had to change my mail to use godaddy until they got back to me. When they finally did they said it was because my dns records were pointing to godaddy ! After 1 week of not getting mails i would say an alternative is required. I actually had a feeling that this would happen :) I re…

Sadly, from what I have read over the years, your experience is not a solitary one. I hope Google, at some point, will address their customer service issues.

Re: Remove any Site From Google (even if you don't control it)

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I think it's sad that he had to resort to publicly releasing this exploit because he couldn't find a way to contact Google about it. In the past, when I've had problems, I couldn't contact them either. They've done a great job at making sure there's no human contacts available. You have to post something in a public forum and hope they'll contact you. (They won't.)

http://goo.gl/vulnz

obfuscated link is https://www.google.com/appserve/security-bugs/new

Re: Remove any Site From Google (even if you don't control it)

#77

I think it's sad that he had to resort to publicly releasing this exploit because he couldn't find a way to contact Google about it. In the past, when I've had problems, I couldn't contact them either. They've done a great job at making sure there's no human contacts available. You have to post something in a public forum and hope they'll contact you. (They won't.)

I'm not sure how he was unable to find their security@google.com email address. Searches like "Google security" and "Google report vulnerability" have http://www.google.com/about/corporate/company/security.html (which has a prominent section on reporting security issues) as their first result.

The list of Google email addresses, including security@google.com is TWO clicks away from the google.com homepage.

Footer -> About Google -> Contact Us

Re: Remove any Site From Google (even if you don't control it)

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I am always amazed how experienced programmers can make such obvious errors when processing user input. Why would I ask for a URL of the WMT account in the query string?

I just hope that there is no "for the lulz" guy running a batch script to see how many million URLs he'll be able to remove before this gets fixed.

Re: Remove any Site From Google (even if you don't control it)

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I think it's sad that he had to resort to publicly releasing this exploit because he couldn't find a way to contact Google about it. In the past, when I've had problems, I couldn't contact them either. They've done a great job at making sure there's no human contacts available. You have to post something in a public forum and hope they'll contact you. (They won't.)

Sending an email to security@google.com will result in a quick response. As part of their bug bounty program Google would have paid $1,000 for this bug if not more.

I emailed security@google.com when I found a security issue with Google +1 (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2630355) but didn't get any response. I guess it's not really an issue for them.

Re: Remove any Site From Google (even if you don't control it)

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This bug could have been exploited for millions of dollars. Imagine giving a mafia boss control over the heartbeat of every rival. One blackhat SEO could have dominated any number of lucrative keywords. If this bug has existed for a long time it's quite possible some guy is sailing around on a yacht that this bug paid for. It's such a blindingly obvious bug that I really do wonder whether this might have been a backd…

> This bug could have been exploited for millions of dollars. Quite possibly exploited for non-savvy website owners. Savvy owners would be checking their ranking regularly and noticing it disappear one day. Anyone who ranks highly for lucrative keywords and does not check their ranking is asking to lose it, whether ethically or otherwise. So I don't think it would have been exploited for the millions you think, but p…

It's not like savvy website owners have portals into the elusive world of WTF Is Happening To My SERP Rank? Nor do savvy website owners have magical avenues to rectify such events.

In other words, I'm not confident in the speed you can get Google to remedy an event where your website disappears from the results.

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