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Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by vimy »

shadilay wrote: post #218
tyingq wrote: post #80

Pretty nice specs for a handheld battery powered device... Processor AMD APU CPU: Zen 2 4c/8t, 2.4-3.5GHz (up to 448 GFlops FP32) GPU: 8 RDNA 2 CUs, 1.0-1.6GHz (up to 1.6 TFlops FP32) APU power: 4-15W RAM 16 GB LPDDR5 RAM (5500 MT/s) Storage 64 GB eMMC (PCIe Gen 2 x1) 256 GB NVMe SSD (PCIe Gen 3 x4) 512 GB high-speed NVMe SSD (PCIe Gen 3 x4) All models include high-speed microSD card slot Though it does weigh 669 gra…

I was thinking AMD Renoir but Zen 2 and RDNA 2 is an odd combination. Is it custom?

> We partnered with AMD to create Steam Deck's custom APU, optimized for handheld gaming.

From the hardware section on the website.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by ElFitz »

tus89 wrote: post #253

Stadia should have made something like this obsolete but...Google.

Tried Stadia. Wouldn’t ever let me start a game no matter what I tried.

Ended up giving up after two months and went back to either GeForce Now or my Windows partition, depending on the game.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by mastrsushi »

Ancapistani wrote: post #346
mastrsushi wrote: post #181

A more expensive Nintendo Switch with the attractiveness and weight of the Sega Nomad. Complimented by the extensive Linux gaming library. Brought to you by the maniacs at Valve who lost their minds somewhere around Portal 2. Just listen to that mobile AMD64 go hnnnnnngggggg Edit: LR 4 and 5? what monster was this designed for? I’m glad to see Valve attempting to be creative again. But this is an idea we all drew in…

> A more expensive Nintendo Switch and? Consider this is HN, which is largely populated by people with the disposable income that this doesn't much matter. > with the attractiveness and weight of the Sega Nomad ... which competed with the Gameboy > Complimented by the extensive Linux gaming library. First, this is much larger than you might expect. Second, it's only limited _on the device_. I see this being used as a…

> Consider this is HN

Consider this is the gaming community which already owns PCs and consoles that either outperform or have larger, richer libraries than this thing.

> ... which competed with the Gameboy

You mean the more successful, lighter competitor with a better library?

> First, this is much larger than you might expect.

Really not that big considering the demands of actual gamers. Especially compared to already established platforms

>I see this being used as a thin client into a desktop gaming PC that you already own

$400 thin client

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by azornathogron »

jimbob45 wrote: post #194

Valve is like 90s id Software without Carmack. They understand business models. They know that the money is to be made in game engines and game platforms, not games themselves. However, they’ve never had the technical talent and vision to execute on that. Half-life was supposed to be a demo for GoldSrc. It never took off and I can’t name a single 3rd party GoldSrc game. Likewise, Half-life 2 was supposed to be a demo…

I think they've done fine with VR hardware, except for that market still being pretty small/niche in general. Oculus probably has a more well known brand, but the Valve VR hardware is - I think - pretty much best in class, and I think anyone would choose Valve over Facebook as a source of VR games. HL Alyx was well-received as well. But VR is still pretty niche.

Steam itself is their biggest success of course, though that is not hardware. I do believe Steam took good perseverance and good execution to achieve the success that it's seen. (Re: perseverance, remember that when Steam first came out, people really hated the idea!)

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by klodolph »

Gadiguibou wrote: post #188
caslon wrote: post #38

First impressions: Really good hardware for the price. They fixed the worst thing about SteamOS: It's now got an Arch base. They're definitely overcharging for storage, but I imagine it'll be easy enough to modify one, so it probably doesn't matter much. Why is any company having more USB-2 slots than USB-3 these days? Going with a relatively low resolution compared to modern ones is actually a surprisingly smart mov…

Regarding that storage thing: in the hardware section, they specified that the storage could be expanded with a microSD [1] card which should already improve storage capacity by a lot if you wish. [1]: https://www.steamdeck.com/en/hardware

Micro SD is an order of magnitude slower than the NVMe option, though.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by minsc__and__boo »

trey-jones wrote: post #155
Tajnymag wrote: post #14

The pricing even doesn't seem unreasonable. If the device is of a good quality, this could sell pretty well.

I don't disagree, but I think the $399 version might be their undoing. 64GB is about 1 AAA game, and 0 in some cases. So people are going to get this one for their kids for Christmas, the kids are going to say it's shit, and it's going to get a bad reputation, even if the high end models are good. Maybe they have solutions lined up for the problems that will come with low/slow storage, but we'll see!

>64GB is about 1 AAA game, and 0 in some cases.

They will just use an SD card. Yeah it's not as fast as SSD but it's the low end device.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by myrloc »

Would’ve been an instant win for me if I could do a Switch-style hookup to the TV. Without that, it’s just another limited mobile gaming console.

Re: Valve Steam Deck

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Post by dkdbejwi383 »

modeless wrote: post #211
css wrote: post #135

From the FAQ [0]: - What OS is Steam Deck running? SteamOS 3.0, a new version of SteamOS based on Arch Linux. - Will people be able to install Windows, or other 3rd party content? Yes. Steam Deck is a PC, and players will be able to install whatever they like, including other OSes. [0]: https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/steamdeck/faq

That is a great link. Perhaps even more interesting is this: Valve is working with anti-cheat vendors for Linux (Proton) support. So one of the biggest remaining obstacles to Linux gaming may soon be addressed as a side effect of this.

I hope they put some effort into anticheat on Linux for their own games. Team Fortress 2 has been barely playable for the past year because of cheaters running bots using widely available software which Valve seemingly can’t detect on Linux.
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