Pharo 9

#1

Post by xkriva11 » Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 9:40 AM UTC

Re: Pharo 9

#2

Post by estebanlor » Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 9:41 AM UTC

Pharo is a pure object-oriented programming language and a powerful environment, focused on simplicity and immediate feedback.

Re: Pharo 9

#3

Post by adius » Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 9:47 AM UTC

And 10 years later still no proper support for retina displays. I really think you should get your priorities straight.

Re: Pharo 9

#4

Post by Zenchess » Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 10:17 AM UTC

Just a heads up the pharolauncher does not seem to be working for me, at least for pharo 9. Manual download of vm + image 64bit works but 32 bit does not.

I have been making pharo raylib bindings and plan to make a video soon about why Smalltalk is an interesting choice for game development, it's a very 'live-coding' feel, i.e. you run your game while the editor is still live, you have free reign to at any time modify the methods of all game objects, execute random code, etc. without restarting the game...

Re: Pharo 9

#5

Post by Jenk » Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 10:24 AM UTC

adius wrote: post #3

And 10 years later still no proper support for retina displays. I really think you should get your priorities straight.

> I really think you should get your priorities straight.

The irony.

Re: Pharo 9

#6

Post by estebanlor » Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 10:26 AM UTC

Zenchess wrote: post #4

Just a heads up the pharolauncher does not seem to be working for me, at least for pharo 9. Manual download of vm + image 64bit works but 32 bit does not. I have been making pharo raylib bindings and plan to make a video soon about why Smalltalk is an interesting choice for game development, it's a very 'live-coding' feel, i.e. you run your game while the editor is still live, you have free reign to at any time modif…

it requires an update :)

Re: Pharo 9

#7

Post by floatboth » Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 10:27 AM UTC

adius wrote: post #3

And 10 years later still no proper support for retina displays. I really think you should get your priorities straight.

There is a GTK3 backend now, hopefully that should make HiDPI work, support Wayland, etc. – depending on how it's implemented of course.

Doesn't look like it's ready to handle all the UI (?) though – in the promo screenshot there's one GTK window on top of a more classic Pharo window (?)

Re: Pharo 9

#8

Post by krageon » Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 10:28 AM UTC

adius wrote: post #3

And 10 years later still no proper support for retina displays. I really think you should get your priorities straight.

Retina displays don't matter because the majority of your users don't have them. Problem solved :)

Re: Pharo 9

#9

Post by Gormisdomai » Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 10:35 AM UTC

[edit - the link below now loads, very cool to see all the companies involved, especially given Pharo crops up here every few months]

I'd be curious about who, if anyone, funds Pharo development - especially if there are any medium-large companies backing it's development.

I found this link to the Pharo "consortium" but it's not loading for me https://consortium.pharo.org/

Re: Pharo 9

#10

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 10:38 AM UTC

Gormisdomai wrote: post #9

[edit - the link below now loads, very cool to see all the companies involved, especially given Pharo crops up here every few months] I'd be curious about who, if anyone, funds Pharo development - especially if there are any medium-large companies backing it's development. I found this link to the Pharo "consortium" but it's not loading for me https://consortium.pharo.org/

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