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Re: Elementary OS

#61

For everyone wondering: it's based on Ubuntu, with a clean theme and some "homemade" applications. It's minimalist and blazing fast. The music player will come with the next release. It's opinionated. I like it.

This. Thank you.. They should at least specify it on the home page..?

Re: Elementary OS

#63
post #38

The clean, simpleness is good, but it's looking over the wrong pond for inspiration. Windows 7 has a great desktop experience, and it's whats keeping me from switching over to Linux. Gnome 3 is really close to it though, if not for the font rendering[1], games[2], and comfortable software I would switch over to Linux. I think Linux can do it if the people who develop software with a GUI only work with their GUI to de…

What? I'm on GNOME2 and my fonts are gorgeous. Far superior to Windows's ClearType or my MBP's blurry rendering. Also, not sure how the appearance of buttons plays into UX... it's not like Wine comes with Windows 2000 or Windows 7 applications. I assume you're referring to the visual style of the buttons. It's a very small issue that affects people dependent on Windows applications... and besides, you can use Windows…

I was more so talking about Gnome 3. The titlebar fonts are generally okay, but the way fonts are rendered in web browsers on really any desktop environment in Linux versus how they're rendered in OS X or Windows are considerably worse.

I'm referring to the visual style in general, there's a huge difference between having something work and enjoying using it, and Wine is most of the time the former, but rarely, if ever, the latter.

Re: Elementary OS

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post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What? I'm on GNOME2 and my fonts are gorgeous. Far superior to Windows's ClearType or my MBP's blurry rendering. Also, not sure how the appearance of buttons plays into UX... it's not like Wine comes with Windows 2000 or Windows 7 applications. I assume you're referring to the visual style of the buttons. It's a very small issue that affects people dependent on Windows applications... and besides, you can use Windows…

I was more so talking about Gnome 3. The titlebar fonts are generally okay, but the way fonts are rendered in web browsers on really any desktop environment in Linux versus how they're rendered in OS X or Windows are considerably worse. I'm referring to the visual style in general, there's a huge difference between having something work and enjoying using it, and Wine is most of the time the former, but rarely, if ev…

I guess I don't understand what you want. Like I said, Ubuntu fonts out of the box are rendered gorgeously and I've had similar or identical rendering in GNOME 3. Maybe it's just me, but I think these all look decent:

http://i.imgur.com/4dGbR.png

http://i.imgur.com/mfyjw.png

http://i.imgur.com/BqOdg.png

In fact, I would venture to guess you couldn't differentiate between Linux and Mac OS X (the Windows one is obvious), out of those three.

Again, the "visual style" of Wine is adaptable. winecfg allows you to use the uxtheme files that are used by Windows. There is even a uxtheme file that makes applications run in Wine look just like native Ubuntu applications.

Wine is great considering what it is. And anyone who understands what it does, has reasonable expectations for what it can do. They've effectively written their own implementation of Windows APIs to the point that Team Fortress 2 and the (current_version - 1) version of Office runs with little to no problems at all.

I love Wine. It lets me use self extracting ZIP files, small executables, small tools, old programs I wrote but don't have the source code for. I don't "enjoy" using it because I'd rather use a native app... but again, I'm really just not sure what you're expecting. It's not an emulator...

Anyone trying to use Visual Studio or AutoCAD in Linux (wine that is, I use Visual Studio in VirtualBox for my day job) is asking to be laughed at. Fortunately, there are half a dozen excellent virtualization technologies for Linux... and many competent replacements for Windows tools in the Linux world.

Re: Elementary OS

#65
Not trying to be negative, as I haven't used elementary for any real amount of time yet, but: whenever I glance at the 'e' icon it reminds me of a negative action sign. Like a 'No right turn' road sign, or something similar. Not a problem once you're used to it, I suppose.

Re: Elementary OS

#66

I don't really see the point of this. OSX is already a perfectly suitable OSX, what does this add?

To expand a bit: this is obviously heavily inspired by Mac OS X (that's being generous). Imitation is fine, but it's much better when it expands upon the ideas that it's borrowed. This doesn't do that. So outside of giving linux a nicer aesthetic, what does this offer?

Re: Elementary OS

#67

Not trying to be negative, as I haven't used elementary for any real amount of time yet, but: whenever I glance at the 'e' icon it reminds me of a negative action sign. Like a 'No right turn' road sign, or something similar. Not a problem once you're used to it, I suppose.

Takes about 4 seconds to change it to whatever icon you want..

Re: Elementary OS

#68

For everyone wondering: it's based on Ubuntu, with a clean theme and some "homemade" applications. It's minimalist and blazing fast. The music player will come with the next release. It's opinionated. I like it.

The next release should also include their own shell called Pantheon/Pantheon-Shell. It features their top bar, Wingpanel, their Unity/Gnome3 style dash called Slingshot, and their own fork of Docky called Plank.

https://launchpad.net/~elementaryart/+archive/elementary-dev

Re: Elementary OS

#69
post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was more so talking about Gnome 3. The titlebar fonts are generally okay, but the way fonts are rendered in web browsers on really any desktop environment in Linux versus how they're rendered in OS X or Windows are considerably worse. I'm referring to the visual style in general, there's a huge difference between having something work and enjoying using it, and Wine is most of the time the former, but rarely, if ev…

I guess I don't understand what you want. Like I said, Ubuntu fonts out of the box are rendered gorgeously and I've had similar or identical rendering in GNOME 3. Maybe it's just me, but I think these all look decent: http://i.imgur.com/4dGbR.png http://i.imgur.com/mfyjw.png http://i.imgur.com/BqOdg.png In fact, I would venture to guess you couldn't differentiate between Linux and Mac OS X (the Windows one is obvious…

He just doesn't like them. Get over it. People have different tastes. You don't really need to write essays about why he is "wrong".

I think the blurryfonts in the 3 imgur urls you've provided are way worse than what I see in Windows 7 and Mac OS X every day. They're somewhat misshapen and smudged-looking.

Re: Elementary OS

#70

This website's bizarre mix of imitation and over-explaining reminds me of some earnest but vacuous manual for a foreign knock-off product. "Press the File menu," I expect it to say, "and a beautiful pull-down fades quickly into view, with useful functions such as New Folder and Close." Too bad Apple patented calling an address book "Address Book," I guess they'll just have to do their best with nonsense names.

> Too bad Apple patented calling an address book "Address Book," Are you joking? I didn't think that was possible, it's too generic and I couldn't find anything on Google regarding the matter.

In the good old days, Microsoft would have called it "Microsoft Address Book", waited a few years, then started suing people for using the term "Address Book". More recently, they'd have called it "My Address Book" and then changed it back to "Address Book" in Vista, breaking applications that expected to find "My Address Book". And the 32-bit version would be in "Program Files x86" because it's really important to segregate applications by their bitness.
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