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Launch HN: Onfolk (YC S21) – Modern HR and Payroll in One Place (For the UK)

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Re: Launch HN: Onfolk (YC S21) – Modern HR and Payroll in One Place (For the UK)

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There's quite a few modern HR platforms floating around, like CharlieHR, and it seems (as an outsider) that these platforms have explicitly decided not to enter payroll because it's such a nightmare. From my own experience, payroll is very hands-on because of edge-cases: make one mistake with one employee and you're sixty emails deep with a payroll administrator trying to clear things up (I've been on the receiving e…

just noticed your username :D thank you for the kind words!

Re: Launch HN: Onfolk (YC S21) – Modern HR and Payroll in One Place (For the UK)

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Congrats on the launch! Must take lots of guts to compete in a market with these many competitors. Hope this works out for you guys. One thing that caught my eye was that the other softwares do not have automated tests. How do you know this? Do you consider this to be a USP of your software? I do not think end users will care about whether tests exist or not.

> One thing that caught my eye was that the other softwares do not have automated tests. How do you know this? Talking to ex-employees > Do you consider this to be a USP of your software? I do not think end users will care about whether tests exist or not. I wouldn't go so far to call it a USP (many payroll softwares will test decently), more a baseline for quality. It's not uncommon to hear of payroll errors when ta…

> many payroll softwares will test decently

That's certainly the impression I got from working in this field for a while. I've worked on one of the products on that list of UK payroll providers, and it has one of the most extensive test suites that I've seen. And some of my colleagues there had previously worked for its competitors, and they mentioned similarly good test coverage there.

I'm sure the quality & amount of testing varies a lot between different products, and I have to imagine there are some dreadful ones. But at the same time, I don't think having thorough test coverage for this type of product -- especially for the parts of the product that deal with monetary calculations -- is particularly unusual either.

Re: Launch HN: Onfolk (YC S21) – Modern HR and Payroll in One Place (For the UK)

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One of my previous stints was with a small team that was building a cloud-based payroll and HR platform for the Australian market (potentially going abroad as well). It definitely opened my eyes to how complicated award rules can be.

I also remember testing being a challenge, particularly when things like multiple backpays, accruals, or one off adjustments were involved.

There was also an integration API, but I didn't stick around long enough to see it evolve enough for widespread third-party adoption.

Anyway, congratulations on the launch!

Re: Launch HN: Onfolk (YC S21) – Modern HR and Payroll in One Place (For the UK)

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> “butt” is a feature in payroll land

Cloud-to-butt extension? :D

Great initiative; UK payroll systems are indeed a mess. Wishing you the best of luck - you clearly have the skills and experience to make a success of this clear gap in the market. I’m familiar with Monzo’s engineering and cultural standards, and hope you carry those to this startup too.

Re: Launch HN: Onfolk (YC S21) – Modern HR and Payroll in One Place (For the UK)

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Looks really cool. I am the CFO for a post series A company with 25 employees in the UK and last month migrated to Pento, who I guess you would consider a competitor?

I love the new employee experience. Now payslips get synced straight into our HR system (HiBob) and everyone can delete the horrible MyEPayWindow website from their bookmarks.

More importantly for me, the payroll administration side is significantly slicker. We used to spend significant time back and forth in emails with our payroll administrator providing manual updates of new starters and payroll changes. This was not scalable as our headcount grew. Now changes get synced automatically from HiBob. We actually pay slightly more to Pento than we paid the administration firm, but our calculation was that the time we saved was a bigger saving overall.

Anyway I think you are playing in a great space and there is a huge market. I look forward to following your progress.

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