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One by One, My Friends Were Sent to the Camps

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Re: One by One, My Friends Were Sent to the Camps

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I'm glad he made it to the US. Of course because it's The Atlantic, they were obligated to implicate the US as a co-conspirator: "Islamophobic discourses that gathered strength in the U.S. have been central to China’s efforts to justify its Xinjiang policies". Yeah, of course it's all really our fault, of course. Keep in mind, The Atlantic is a lifestyle magazine.

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post #10
post #5

I'm glad he made it to the US. Of course because it's The Atlantic, they were obligated to implicate the US as a co-conspirator: "Islamophobic discourses that gathered strength in the U.S. have been central to China’s efforts to justify its Xinjiang policies". Yeah, of course it's all really our fault, of course. Keep in mind, The Atlantic is a lifestyle magazine.

A magazine dangling this important humanitarian story behind a “soft” paywall to sell subscriptions, no less. Imagine the reaction if they had done this with their COVID collection.

If you cared enough to finance open access to the article, I'm sure they'd be amenable.

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post #5

I'm glad he made it to the US. Of course because it's The Atlantic, they were obligated to implicate the US as a co-conspirator: "Islamophobic discourses that gathered strength in the U.S. have been central to China’s efforts to justify its Xinjiang policies". Yeah, of course it's all really our fault, of course. Keep in mind, The Atlantic is a lifestyle magazine.

I fail to understand why it is the west that speaks up for these Muslims, whilst the Islamic countries remain quiet. Where is the outrage from Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Iran? Why are the US the ones accused of needing to do more? Shouldn't Islamic countries at least do something?

>Shouldn't Islamic countries at least do something?

They're farther down the hierarchy of nation state needs than where you need to be to be in order to call out someone like China.

So they all shit on Israel because it's the only "local enough we could conceivably do something about it" problem they can all agree on.

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post #2

Unfortunately it takes forever to load for me on a mobile phone and is pretty unreadable once loaded to the page margins and font size.

If you are using Firefox, activate reader mode to access all the text (it's a soft paywall) and then bookmark the page to store it on your phone. You still have to load the page once, but only once and the font won't be a problem anymore.

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post #8
post #5

I'm glad he made it to the US. Of course because it's The Atlantic, they were obligated to implicate the US as a co-conspirator: "Islamophobic discourses that gathered strength in the U.S. have been central to China’s efforts to justify its Xinjiang policies". Yeah, of course it's all really our fault, of course. Keep in mind, The Atlantic is a lifestyle magazine.

> Keep in mind, The Atlantic is a lifestyle magazine. Have you ever read The Atlantic? Quite a few of its writers have either been nominated for or outright won Pulitzers, with one winner this year [1]. Even beyond awards, it has published important reporting [2] and very influential commentary [3]. [1] - https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/ed-yong-atlantic [2] - https://pulitzercenter.org/publications/atlantic [3] - ht…

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Re: One by One, My Friends Were Sent to the Camps

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post #11
post #5

I'm glad he made it to the US. Of course because it's The Atlantic, they were obligated to implicate the US as a co-conspirator: "Islamophobic discourses that gathered strength in the U.S. have been central to China’s efforts to justify its Xinjiang policies". Yeah, of course it's all really our fault, of course. Keep in mind, The Atlantic is a lifestyle magazine.

If you do nothing it is your fault. That is what these camps have thought us you really need to critize them harshly and take action. That said the legal power nations have to put people in camp during war time is anachronistic. So there is alot we can do to make it better.

> critize them harshly

does nothing.

> and take action.

How? Suit up and form an A*Team to infiltrate? Cyberattacks? Pool funds to bribe politicians?

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post #9

After visiting Auschwitz, I expected (or maybe hoped) that the world would never let it happen again. “How could they do this?”, People asked. “That would never happen today” people murmured. Yet, here we are. Reading the 15th article about it, while the White House deletes tweets that likely anger the CCP They should be removed from most favored nation status. Governments could do a lot more but don’t

> while the White House deletes tweets that likely anger the CCP I haven't heard about this. Could you elaborate?

I've heard of tweets taken down, but always assumed Twitter was self censoring

Re: One by One, My Friends Were Sent to the Camps

#39
post #5

I'm glad he made it to the US. Of course because it's The Atlantic, they were obligated to implicate the US as a co-conspirator: "Islamophobic discourses that gathered strength in the U.S. have been central to China’s efforts to justify its Xinjiang policies". Yeah, of course it's all really our fault, of course. Keep in mind, The Atlantic is a lifestyle magazine.

I fail to understand why it is the west that speaks up for these Muslims, whilst the Islamic countries remain quiet. Where is the outrage from Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Iran? Why are the US the ones accused of needing to do more? Shouldn't Islamic countries at least do something?

There's a few things.

1) One thing to keep in mind is that religion is usually only the backdrop for some geopolitical issues. Yes, ISIS was an Islamist movement, but it was first and foremost opportunists seizing a vacuum of power in Iraq, and the instability in Syria, to put themselves into power. When looked at through that lens, why would a Muslim in Morocco or Algeria or Indonesia care that much about ISIS? Does a Catholic in Rome feel intimately connected to violence in Mexico? Most of them thought ISIS were a bunch of assholes, but it wasn't happening in their backyard.

2) Another thing is again politics. It's good for Arab leaders to criticize Israel and blame it for their problems. (Most of them) don't need Israel for anything. They rely more in China. That's the same reason most Western countries are falling short of accusing China of genocide.

3) From a purely religious point of view, Jerusalem/Al-Quds is a very important religious site Islam. It's the direction they originally faced when they prayed (Mohammed moved it to Mecca later), and is the location from which Mohammed ascended to heaven in one of his visions. China has no religious value.

Re: One by One, My Friends Were Sent to the Camps

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After visiting Auschwitz, I expected (or maybe hoped) that the world would never let it happen again. “How could they do this?”, People asked. “That would never happen today” people murmured. Yet, here we are. Reading the 15th article about it, while the White House deletes tweets that likely anger the CCP They should be removed from most favored nation status. Governments could do a lot more but don’t

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