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The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

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Re: The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

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I'm going to pre-emptively defend Tesla here, since they are usually the canonical touch screen example - Tesla cars have a volume thumbwheel on the steering wheel.

What about the passengers? :-)

Passengers would just reduce the carbon footprint per transported person, which goes against the greenwashing stance of Musk cars.

Or put another way: those potential passengers should get their own Tesla, because more teslas are better for the environment.

Re: The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

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This is the new volume control in windows 11 (some insider version they've randomly thrown at me): https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/786/aIfxKh.png It's atrocious. No slider, clicking on it "blips" the speakers so you can hear how loud it is. You have to hover pointer on top of it which enlarges the green circle by about 10% to show "Hey, you're hovering me, in case you missed it!" and then scroll so the the tin…

That's so hilariously misguided, it's like some student's experimental pet project. It gives zero visual hint as to how to use it (i.e. ‘affordances’). From the looks, I'd guess that it's a horizontal slider with the range of like fifty pixels. If this was any kind of an established control, you'd surely just use the speaker icon itself as the ‘handler’ to grab—the fact that they needed the separate green dot says enough about whether it was a good idea. How it passed any kind of review at MS is a baffling mystery.

Re: The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

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Ford moved volume control to the touchscreen, but people wanted a knob. Solution? They stuck a knob to the touchscreen. Under the knob is an artificial "finger" that touches the screen. I haven't used it personally so all I can say is it's a hilarious solution. https://techcrunch.com/2020/12/02/im-obsessed-with-the-ford-...

They took a simple device, that was easy to make, and every china basement factory could make, and made it needlessly complicated. Now we have a chip shortage, and not even a radio with volume control can be made without a chip that is backordered for 1y+

Still unfortunately more expensive buying the component than just putting the dial on a touchscreen.

Even if it's objectively worse in absolutely every possible dimension you could ever grade it on.

Re: The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

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I think the worst UI is simply the Teams one, because it presents as an app volume control but then simply controls the global device volume . Fuck off, you are not the only app running. But that comes second to the microphone gain control, which Teams similarly exerts unilateral control over - only this time through an automated algorithm that for some microphone types just ends up muting them entirely. It's wild, y…

Alas Teams is far from the only app to control the global volume, and it doesn't happen only in Windows.

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> Paste a code block. Select a word in the code block. Copy and you get the whole block copied not the selected word. I feel like this used to work properly until a month or so ago. The worst bug I've seen, and this is also something that only started happening in the last several months, is select messages simply not appearing! So basically I open my computer in the morning and look at Teams and it'll have messages…

Outlook also has had this problem of emails just not showing up. Sometimes it takes a whole day for an email to arrive. Amazingly low quality for such a wide used product. MS in particular has the habit of actually introducing small bugs like this regularly through their usual updates. It's infuriating. One day something works the next it just doesn't. I know people who never update their machine because of this. Can…

On the same note, it takes practically all day for the iOS outlook app to update my email. My organization doesn't allow for the default mail app to work anymore, so I am stuck with this worthless email app.

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I was grading an online exam yesterday. You're lucky. This program used an SPA. The core workflow is hidden and split over multiple "tabs". Tabs include: question, given answer, score awarded. That's right, none of those are available simultaneously. Yes, 70% of its window goes unused when full-screen. Going through all students can be done in (at least) two ways. In the first, you can press a button to proceed to th…

If it's an SPA, can't it be greasemonkey'd to display things properly?

Curious, how would you do that? Would it be a long script or is there some sort of mini Library for this?

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I find Apple's suggestion to use Siri to control the volume on the AirPods Pro [0] to be worse than some of the ideas on that page. The idea of having a spoken conversation in public in which I must request a volume change via a branded AI (and then repeat that request multiple times if necessary to reach my desired volume) just feels humiliating. [0] "To change the volume, say 'Hey, Siri,' then say something like 'T…

Not as humiliating as on Android, so there's that.

What makes one better or worse?

I'm always a bit embarrassed when I'm in public and a buddy calls me over to look at something on a MacBook. Like - "No it wasn't me who fell for Apple marketing."

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