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The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

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Re: The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

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Post by johnwalkr »

iambateman wrote: post #96
stefan_ wrote: post #36

I think the worst UI is simply the Teams one, because it presents as an app volume control but then simply controls the global device volume . Fuck off, you are not the only app running. But that comes second to the microphone gain control, which Teams similarly exerts unilateral control over - only this time through an automated algorithm that for some microphone types just ends up muting them entirely. It's wild, y…

Just in case an MS engineer is reading these Teams gripes… On Mac, Teams does not honor system-level Do not Disturb. So when I turn off notifications during a presentation at work and my friend sends me snarky comments about our boss…

And when you share your screen the entire meeting window is minimized, helpfully showing your entire chat window.

Re: The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

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Post by nuker »

abram wrote: post #102

I find Apple's suggestion to use Siri to control the volume on the AirPods Pro [0] to be worse than some of the ideas on that page. The idea of having a spoken conversation in public in which I must request a volume change via a branded AI (and then repeat that request multiple times if necessary to reach my desired volume) just feels humiliating. [0] "To change the volume, say 'Hey, Siri,' then say something like 'T…

Powerbeats have physical rocker buttons

Re: The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

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Post by johnwalkr »

bouke wrote: post #208
mortenjorck wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Teams’ notifications on Mac are an ongoing debacle. Because they are Microsoft’s own implementation, rather than using the system API, not only do they not respect DND, they also helpfully get lost behind other notifications that come in from properly designed applications. According to the Microsoft admin updates I’m subscribed to, native notifications on Mac have been in a beta channel for months, with a full rollo…

To add insult, the notifications are a separate window on macOS. So when you use cmd+tab to switch _to_ Teams, you might end up in that notifications window. Even when there are no Teams notifications, that window remains. This is very painful when in full-screen mode, as cmd-tabbing to Teams simply doesn’t work. I’m on the beta where you can switch to native notifications, but they’ve only implemented that (poorly)…

Could be worse. In outlook for Mac, there are native notifications but the only button on them is “delete.” I thought it was dismiss for quite some time.

And when you use command-tab to delete search terms, i what it actually does is delete the highlighted email.

Re: The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

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Post by alfredbez »

stefan_ wrote: post #36

I think the worst UI is simply the Teams one, because it presents as an app volume control but then simply controls the global device volume . Fuck off, you are not the only app running. But that comes second to the microphone gain control, which Teams similarly exerts unilateral control over - only this time through an automated algorithm that for some microphone types just ends up muting them entirely. It's wild, y…

OT: We used MS Teams and Slack and management recently decided to close our Slack workspace and switch to MS Teams. Most of our devs are unhappy with Teams so we switched to a selfhosted zulip instance and we're very happy with that.

Re: The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

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Post by Sharlin »

egypturnash wrote: post #45
Sharlin wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It never was a single thread but a meme that lasted for a while, with people making lots of different top-level posts. So linking to search results is the best you can do.

You could... link to the particular post, instead of the search you found it in?

Good point :D

Re: The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

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Post by mike_pol »

Tempest1981 wrote: post #78
rectang wrote: post #6

Nearly all volume controls suck because by and large the software world is ignorant of the fact that loudness scales logarithmically. 99.9% of volume controls scale the output linearly.

On every iPad I've seen, only the lower 3-4 (of 16) steps are normal indoor range. Even the 1st step is too loud at night. I need half-steps. Is this due to linear vs logarithmic scaling? Or are people throwing wild parties where the iPad needs to fill a room with sound?

You can go to the control centre or whatever it's called when you pull down from the battery side of the screen and tap and hold the volume widget, you can then drag your finger up/down to change the volume in small increments. I have the same issue as you when I'm listening to stuff at night.

Re: The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

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Post by culopatin »

piokoch wrote: post #269
mianos wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Teams is the reference for bad UI. Paste a code block. Select a word in the code block. Copy and you get the whole block copied not the selected word. I could write a page of the issues like this. Maybe it would not be so bad if you only used Teams but when you use slack at the same time it is like someone is wacking you in the back of the head every few minutes.

My the most favorite one is when someone pastes link in a chat to MS Office document on Sharepoint/Onedrive. It is opened in Teams and when you close the document you might naively assume you will be back in the chat you came from but no, you end up on the main screen and you need to search for the chat window again.

Which is impossible because it throws meetings with chats all in the same list so you have 3000 things going on. Not to mention that meetings that ended 3 weeks ago still have active chats. Or if you were invited once now you’re forever attached to the chat of all the meetings that come after, even if you’re not invited.

Teams started ok, but it has become worse than Skype, which is something I didn’t think was possible.

From the company that made MSN messenger it’s hard to believe they didn’t have any lessons learned

Re: The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

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Post by Al-Khwarizmi »

piokoch wrote: post #269
mianos wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Teams is the reference for bad UI. Paste a code block. Select a word in the code block. Copy and you get the whole block copied not the selected word. I could write a page of the issues like this. Maybe it would not be so bad if you only used Teams but when you use slack at the same time it is like someone is wacking you in the back of the head every few minutes.

My the most favorite one is when someone pastes link in a chat to MS Office document on Sharepoint/Onedrive. It is opened in Teams and when you close the document you might naively assume you will be back in the chat you came from but no, you end up on the main screen and you need to search for the chat window again.

And don't even think about looking at the document and commenting something about it in the chat, and then looking again... because it seems impossible to have the document and the chat open at the same time.

I tend to just ignore the links and download everything because of this.

Re: The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

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Post by vincentmarle »

xwdv wrote: post #26
temporallobe wrote: post #7

Car manufacturers are easily the winners here. If your car’s audio system doesn’t have a simple knob you can grab and twist, well, that just sucks.

The new Lamborghini Huracan Evo is especially bad at this with its touch screen volume control, no knobs at all.

Alright will not be getting the Lambo then..

Re: The worst volume control UI in the world (2017)

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Post by Al-Khwarizmi »

srswtf123 wrote: post #84
mianos wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Teams is the reference for bad UI. Paste a code block. Select a word in the code block. Copy and you get the whole block copied not the selected word. I could write a page of the issues like this. Maybe it would not be so bad if you only used Teams but when you use slack at the same time it is like someone is wacking you in the back of the head every few minutes.

Ever used Lotus Notes? http://hallofshame.gp.co.at/lotus.htm

The "too many windows, you need to close one before opening another" message is also present in current versions of Adobe Acrobat.
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