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Democrat Groups Plan to “Fact Check” Private Text Messages

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Re: Democrat Groups Plan to “Fact Check” Private Text Messages

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Post by 6f8986c3 »

bassman9000 wrote: post #17
cusenses wrote: post #6

What can regular people even do about this? It's a disgusting overreach if it ends up happening. And if it's all being performed by private companies, in industries where there is very little choice of competitors, there's no violation of rights and no way for us to avoid having our private messages be scrutinized by some authority.

Stop voting the blatantly conglomerated collusion that is Big Tech + MSM + DNC.

The RINOs won’t save us, and there are a few good Dems (Tulsi). The bullshit doesn’t fall along party lines.

Re: Democrat Groups Plan to “Fact Check” Private Text Messages

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Post by polka_haunts_us »

underseacables wrote: post #18

Based on current behavior of cancel culture, I don’t think generation Z truly appreciates the nightmare they are headed for. 20 years from now someone is going to come out of the woodwork with a tweet, text message, social media post, or heaven for bid only fans, and completely destroy someone’s life. The Internet is forever, and private companies are making that so.

I feel very, hopeless for lack of a better word, about this kind of thing lately. I feel strongly that we're sliding by popular demand into this kind of thing, that I'm well in the minority (not on this site but in the population at large) for thinking that it will end terribly, and that instead of putting up my own meager resistence to it, I'd rather egg it on because I believe everyone who genuinely believes it to be a good thing deserves every single repurcussion of it that will inevitably come to them.

I realize this headspace is neither productive nor healthy, but honestly other than burying my head in the sand about the world today, I don't have any bright ideas for how to not be perpetually, distressed?

Re: Democrat Groups Plan to “Fact Check” Private Text Messages

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Post by Ancapistani »

underseacables wrote: post #18

Based on current behavior of cancel culture, I don’t think generation Z truly appreciates the nightmare they are headed for. 20 years from now someone is going to come out of the woodwork with a tweet, text message, social media post, or heaven for bid only fans, and completely destroy someone’s life. The Internet is forever, and private companies are making that so.

The thing that scares me the most about it is that twenty years is a long time. I'm not at all confident that I can predict the direction society will take over the next two decades. By extensions, I'm also not at all confident that I can judge, today, what will be considered abhorrent in the future.

Re: Democrat Groups Plan to “Fact Check” Private Text Messages

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Post by bassman9000 »

6f8986c3 wrote: post #21
bassman9000 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stop voting the blatantly conglomerated collusion that is Big Tech + MSM + DNC.

The RINOs won’t save us, and there are a few good Dems (Tulsi). The bullshit doesn’t fall along party lines.

Didn't say who to vote. I know there are a few good Democrats. Do your own research, or don't vote. I have no doubt many in the GOP salivate at the prospect of enjoying the Orwellian tools the Democrats are building.

There's a cartel of media, big tech execs, and Dem members that are pushing all of this, and people keep voting them, every. single. time. Since, at least, the Obama days. So much "collusion" mentioned, and most people around here will look another way when you mention them The Collusion. You get what you pay for.

Re: Democrat Groups Plan to “Fact Check” Private Text Messages

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Post by Ancapistani »

cirrus3 wrote: post #20

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Re: Democrat Groups Plan to “Fact Check” Private Text Messages

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Post by JustResign »

polka_haunts_us wrote: post #22
underseacables wrote: post #18

Based on current behavior of cancel culture, I don’t think generation Z truly appreciates the nightmare they are headed for. 20 years from now someone is going to come out of the woodwork with a tweet, text message, social media post, or heaven for bid only fans, and completely destroy someone’s life. The Internet is forever, and private companies are making that so.

I feel very, hopeless for lack of a better word, about this kind of thing lately. I feel strongly that we're sliding by popular demand into this kind of thing, that I'm well in the minority (not on this site but in the population at large) for thinking that it will end terribly, and that instead of putting up my own meager resistence to it, I'd rather egg it on because I believe everyone who genuinely believes it to…

If you egg it on, what makes you better than the "others" you distinguish yourself from?

Re: Democrat Groups Plan to “Fact Check” Private Text Messages

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Post by polka_haunts_us »

JustResign wrote: post #26
polka_haunts_us wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel very, hopeless for lack of a better word, about this kind of thing lately. I feel strongly that we're sliding by popular demand into this kind of thing, that I'm well in the minority (not on this site but in the population at large) for thinking that it will end terribly, and that instead of putting up my own meager resistence to it, I'd rather egg it on because I believe everyone who genuinely believes it to…

If you egg it on, what makes you better than the "others" you distinguish yourself from?

I think it's pretty clear that doing things that I truly believe lead to society at large becoming worse would make me a bad person, that's at least partially why I don't actually do them.

Simultaneously, when looking at other people who take actions that I believe will make society worse, I don't wish them eternal peace and happiness as much as I wish they'd stub their toe, spill their coffee, and have a seagull poop on their back. That might make me a bad person, honestly I think it just makes me an average, if not slightly below average, person.

Re: Democrat Groups Plan to “Fact Check” Private Text Messages

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Post by underseacables »

Ancapistani wrote: post #23
underseacables wrote: post #18

Based on current behavior of cancel culture, I don’t think generation Z truly appreciates the nightmare they are headed for. 20 years from now someone is going to come out of the woodwork with a tweet, text message, social media post, or heaven for bid only fans, and completely destroy someone’s life. The Internet is forever, and private companies are making that so.

The thing that scares me the most about it is that twenty years is a long time. I'm not at all confident that I can predict the direction society will take over the next two decades. By extensions, I'm also not at all confident that I can judge, today, what will be considered abhorrent in the future.

That’s a good point. I was listening to a podcast of a comedy historian explain how comedy is very generational. If you go back and listen to the comedians of our parents generation, it’s very different than what we hear today, it’s very rare to see comedians cross generations. Twenty years ago what did we have? No Twitter, Facebook, nascent digital photos, mostly VHS and DVD. Today a digital image, video, or screenshot could be saved by someone who genuinely wants to cause someone harm in the future. It’s already been done and when it happens to some random kid applying for college it’s truly terrifying.

I’ve got 15 years to retirement and I’m very fortunate to have not done anything to get myself canceled. I really hope I can make it to retirement without a an overblown dongle-gate situation crushing my career. I still think about those guys…

Edit: Grammar, as always.

Re: Democrat Groups Plan to “Fact Check” Private Text Messages

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Post by pseudalopex »

underseacables wrote: post #28
Ancapistani wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing that scares me the most about it is that twenty years is a long time. I'm not at all confident that I can predict the direction society will take over the next two decades. By extensions, I'm also not at all confident that I can judge, today, what will be considered abhorrent in the future.

That’s a good point. I was listening to a podcast of a comedy historian explain how comedy is very generational. If you go back and listen to the comedians of our parents generation, it’s very different than what we hear today, it’s very rare to see comedians cross generations. Twenty years ago what did we have? No Twitter, Facebook, nascent digital photos, mostly VHS and DVD. Today a digital image, video, or screens…

The men involved in the PyCon dongle incident found other jobs quickly. The woman did not.

Re: Democrat Groups Plan to “Fact Check” Private Text Messages

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Post by 6f8986c3 »

bassman9000 wrote: post #24
6f8986c3 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The RINOs won’t save us, and there are a few good Dems (Tulsi). The bullshit doesn’t fall along party lines.

Didn't say who to vote. I know there are a few good Democrats. Do your own research, or don't vote. I have no doubt many in the GOP salivate at the prospect of enjoying the Orwellian tools the Democrats are building. There's a cartel of media, big tech execs, and Dem members that are pushing all of this, and people keep voting them, every. single. time. Since, at least, the Obama days. So much "collusion" mentioned,…

Even before Obama. Bush, definitely. Same for the Clintons. I think maybe Eisenhower was our last American president.
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