Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan • Hacker News Board

Re: Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan

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Post by mschuster91 » Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 11:18 PM UTC

RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #11

>Until then, he remains a once-big-fish in a small pond, living in exile and under armed guard in Beirut for the foreseeable future. How secure is he in Beruit? If Japan really wanted him badly, I would guess he would be pretty easy for Israeli Mossad to pick up.

> How secure is he in Beruit? If Japan really wanted him badly, I would guess he would be pretty easy for Israeli Mossad to pick up.

The Mossad only does what's in the national interest of Israel, they are not bounty hunters for hire.

If Japan really wants Ghosn they will either have to send their own team with all the headaches that entails and/or they will need to negotiate with the various groups currently in control of Lebanon... and given they're falling apart, failing to secure food, medicine and fuel for electricity generation, a rich multi-millionaire with a private security force isn't exactly at the top of their priority list.

Re: Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan

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Post by renewiltord » Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 11:18 PM UTC

anonu wrote: post #9

Carlos should have taken the GM role when Obama called him about it. He would've made a lot more money and not been in this situation.

Yeah, and I should have kept all my bitcoins instead of selling them at $650 each, but here we are.

Re: Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan

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Post by liberalasshats » Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 11:18 PM UTC

Simulacra wrote: post #18

indigodaddy wrote: post #2

“ Documentary series Storyville details his extraordinary rise and sudden fall in Carlos Ghosn: The Last Flight which will be shown on BBC 4 on Wednesday 14 July.” ^ Hoping this doc will make its way to American television.. maybe PBS/Frontline?

You can view BBC programing by setting up Tor to go through the U.K.

Thats sound advice not sure why you get downvoted, a niche vpn would probably also work, or you can can torrent it

Re: Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan

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Post by eyelovewe » Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 11:22 PM UTC

renewiltord wrote: post #22

anonu wrote: post #9

Carlos should have taken the GM role when Obama called him about it. He would've made a lot more money and not been in this situation.

Yeah, and I should have kept all my bitcoins instead of selling them at $650 each, but here we are.

Ha, I sold 2 for ~200 usd. Coulda shoulda woulda

Re: Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan

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Post by temp8964 » Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 11:24 PM UTC

makeitdouble wrote: post #20

namelessoracle wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you ever thought the American justice system is bad, look into the Japanese one. The whole system is designed to make you confess and apologize. They will literally lie to you and tell you it will all go away if you sign the confession paperwork. You dont get a lawyer while they do this, and they get to keep you for quite a bit of time before you get a lawyer. They also dont do trial by jury, but inquisitorial jud…

We can agree they’re both fucked up in their own specific ways, along with many other systems. We can hold hands at the bottom of the pit, no need for a winner. > litteraly lie to you BTW in a lot of countries they are basically immune to perjury, so this is just par for course

There are hundreds of countries on this planet. Are you sure U.S. and JP are at the bottom?

Re: Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan

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Post by google234123 » Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 11:26 PM UTC

Too bad for all the people that helped him escape who are being jailed now.

Re: Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan

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Post by jwdunne » Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 11:29 PM UTC

liberalasshats wrote: post #23

Simulacra wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can view BBC programing by setting up Tor to go through the U.K.

Thats sound advice not sure why you get downvoted, a niche vpn would probably also work, or you can can torrent it

Not so sound when we Brits have to pay a license fee by law for owning a TV that can tune in to any public channel just to fund the BBC!

Re: Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan

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Post by jumelles » Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 11:31 PM UTC

sleepytimetea wrote: post #4

So, the justice system in Japan enforces additional restrictions after a person is out on bail ? He couldn't meet his wife seems like an unreasonable condition for someone out on bail. Also, is the justice system in Japan so backed up that he would have to wait years for it go to trial ?

Japan's conviction rate is above 99%. If you're arrested you can be held for up to 23 days without access to a lawyer. Japan's justice system is far from perfect.

Re: Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan

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Post by _0ffh » Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 11:39 PM UTC

jwdunne wrote: post #27

liberalasshats wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thats sound advice not sure why you get downvoted, a niche vpn would probably also work, or you can can torrent it

Not so sound when we Brits have to pay a license fee by law for owning a TV that can tune in to any public channel just to fund the BBC!

Sounds downright fair in comparison to Germany, where you have to pay a TV license fee for having a home, no TV set required.

Re: Carlos Ghosn: How I escaped Japan

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Post by causality0 » Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 11:39 PM UTC

lkramer wrote: post #13

The whole story is a bit hard to untangle, but I wouldn't be surprised if both that he literally saved Nissan and funneled money off to personal projects is true. He strikes me as the type of executive who believe he can do what he wants as long as he shows result. It was rumoured that the house he lives in in Beirut actually belongs to Nissan and they've been trying to get him kicked out, but with little success.

Nissan may have been saved, but it came at the cost of their reputation. According to my auto mechanic friends Nissan once ranked up there with Toyota and Honda for reliability, but their quality plummeted after the Renault deal.