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Study finds 83% of software developers feel burnout

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Re: Study finds 83% of software developers feel burnout

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Can we talk for a second about the fact that to even read this article I needed to enable JavaScript from no fewer than FIVE different sources? I just want some plain HTML, and maybe a little CSS. I don't want your fancy animations and 50 trackers. The modern web is doomed.

Re: Study finds 83% of software developers feel burnout

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If you were a professional painter and every couple of months, someone snuck into your art studio, threw out all your brushes, paint, canvas, and then dumped a huge load of requests for you to "fix" your old paintings, I'm pretty sure you'd get burned out pretty quick.

Is maintenance the cause of burnout then?

Hah! More like the inability to perform maintenance, due to management continually demanding new features etc on tight deadlines... and once the burnout sets in, efficiency drops and you can't even think about sneaking some maintenance in... until something catches fire! Then you have a huge backlog and people screaming from multiple directions and nobody wants their deadlines to slip...

Re: Study finds 83% of software developers feel burnout

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If you were a professional painter and every couple of months, someone snuck into your art studio, threw out all your brushes, paint, canvas, and then dumped a huge load of requests for you to "fix" your old paintings, I'm pretty sure you'd get burned out pretty quick.

Do you really think it's appropriate to compare maintenance of one's engineering work with intrusive changes to one's artistic output?

This doesn't invalidate the conclusion, strictly speaking, but the basis for it is flawed in my opinion.

Re: Study finds 83% of software developers feel burnout

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Studies aren't there to cater to your ignorance. Burnout is well defined, and generally quite well understood by even the general public, this is not news. You switched from "soft science is all subjective nonsense" to "I don't like how it's written". You don't have to like it.

I don't think burnout is well defined at all - at least not as used colloquially. As I understand it there's a specific medical/ mental health condition called burnout that is pretty horrendous. But in everyday usage it can mean everything from that medical definition to "I've had a rough week". I don't see any reason to assume which end of that scale a survey respondent might be thinking of when they answer.

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Re: Study finds 83% of software developers feel burnout

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is maintenance the cause of burnout then?

For me burnout comes from the endless treadmill of external pressures (arbitrary deadlines, changing requirements) and the endless treadmill of development work. There's not really ever a chance to step back and take a breath - just constantly moving from one high priority task to the next. It's also a bit thankless, being good as this job, in a lot of cases, means you are moving really fast from one task to the next…

This 110% ^^^

Re: Study finds 83% of software developers feel burnout

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As a art-degree holder turned engineer - yup. While there's a romantic vision of the starving artist, being broke is a whole different type of burnout.

There are plenty of commercial artists (illustrators, designers, etc) that make a good living making art. Even if you're creating fine art exclusively it's possible to make a good living at it if your art has mass appeal. The problem is when you make art that's not really geared towards the masses. If you make something widely considered "ugly" or disturbing, that most people wouldn't want to hang in their living roo…

> The problem is when you make art that's not really geared towards the masses

Well, apparently there’s also a lot of money to be made doing very specific commissions.

Not quite sure where I heard about that, but the concept of ‘whales’ exists there as well.

Re: Study finds 83% of software developers feel burnout

#127

This is such a great example of bullshit studies. Yeah I'm gonna go on a limb and say this is a marketing campaign. It's an insult to science to call this a "study". From the pdf: > The fieldwork of this study was carried out at remarkable speed, from the 23rd to 24th of June 2021 Data was collected in 1 day. Is this a joke? No it's not! > The population sampled included Software Engineers aged 18+ living in the Unit…

If they asked me to do this survey, their mail would end up in my spam box. I’m not burned out.

Re: Study finds 83% of software developers feel burnout

#128

This is such a great example of bullshit studies. Yeah I'm gonna go on a limb and say this is a marketing campaign. It's an insult to science to call this a "study". From the pdf: > The fieldwork of this study was carried out at remarkable speed, from the 23rd to 24th of June 2021 Data was collected in 1 day. Is this a joke? No it's not! > The population sampled included Software Engineers aged 18+ living in the Unit…

Sadly lots of today’s “research” meets this low threshold. Lots of politicized headlines use low quality research to push narratives. #depressing

I recently came across a US Government funded study [1] that used anecdata of 12 people–just 12 tired souls!– to put forth a seal on the claim that e-ink screens are better for the human eyes than emissive type of displays.

Edit: Reality however: the opposite is true. Only in some scenarios (like reading under open sun) does one type of screen outdo the other. In most usual cases, that is indoor reading, the emissive display is better for the eyes.

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5929099/

Re: Study finds 83% of software developers feel burnout

#129
Slightly off-topic, but can we just talk about the fact that reading this article required me to load JavaScript from FIVE different sources? The user experience of me scrolling down some formatted text with an image on the top could have been replicated in HTML and CSS easily. And even if it simply HAD to have been done in JS, why so many sources? I don't know who intercom.io or webflow.com are, but I doubt your article needs them to load. And if it does, you need to stop refusing to load pages before you're done plopping slow animations and subtle trackers on me.

Re: Study finds 83% of software developers feel burnout

#130

This is such a great example of bullshit studies. Yeah I'm gonna go on a limb and say this is a marketing campaign. It's an insult to science to call this a "study". From the pdf: > The fieldwork of this study was carried out at remarkable speed, from the 23rd to 24th of June 2021 Data was collected in 1 day. Is this a joke? No it's not! > The population sampled included Software Engineers aged 18+ living in the Unit…

"Data was collected in 1 day. Is this a joke? No it's not!" What makes you think data collected over 1 day worse than the same data collected in multiple days? "I really don't understand how they can do a half-assed data survey on 258 people only, and then have the gall to claim "83% of DEVELOPERS"" It's called extrapolation. No study ever interviews everyone. They all have to extrapolate from a subset of the entire…

Another study finds out that 83% of population are old ladies with a cat that happily respond to surveys by post.
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