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An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by that_guy_iain »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #139
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #86

Pretty simple explanation, they let the clearly copyright infringing content in to their walled-garden under safe harbour protections, but allowing download is contributory infringement with distribution and there's no hiding from that as they can clearly easily prevent it (as they have). Super hypocritical? Sure. Understandable? Also a yes.

Apollo, one of the best mobile clients for Reddit (highlighted by Apple in the App Store), allows direct download of media from Reddit. If Reddit forces this, I assume browser extensions are the next step that they can’t mitigate. If the browser needs to play it, it can be ripped.

> If Reddit forces this, I assume browser extensions are the next step that they can’t mitigate. If the browser needs to play it, it can be ripped.

I assume from a legal point of view that is a-ok. They can't do anything about it therefore they can't be expected to do anything about it.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by rchaud »

rualca wrote: post #177
pjc50 wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I wonder why sharing of links is so unpopular, especially outside of the tech-sphere Spam. The target site may be spammy: lots of adverts, popup/unders, taboola "chumboxes" etc. Or, if a site can make money from inbound link traffic, there's an incentive for its owners to spam links in subreddits to drive traffic to themselves. > This is especially bad on apps where you need to know how to find the share option sep…

> Spam. This excuse doesn't really stick as reddit moderates content both by their user base but also by subreddit mods and reddit admins. I'd say that this is all to do with the goal of turning reddit into a walled garden.

It absolutely sticks. Moderators work for free, so you get what you pay for. The automod feature on r/web_design for instance blocks any post that has "Wordpress" in it. The reason given is that WP theme providers spam the subreddit. But it also kills legitimate discussion of Wordpress.

The mods don't care. Their convenience comes first.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by [deleted] »

that_guy_iain wrote: post #201
toomuchtodo wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apollo, one of the best mobile clients for Reddit (highlighted by Apple in the App Store), allows direct download of media from Reddit. If Reddit forces this, I assume browser extensions are the next step that they can’t mitigate. If the browser needs to play it, it can be ripped.

> If Reddit forces this, I assume browser extensions are the next step that they can’t mitigate. If the browser needs to play it, it can be ripped. I assume from a legal point of view that is a-ok. They can't do anything about it therefore they can't be expected to do anything about it.

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Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by willis936 »

hbn wrote: post #181
willis936 wrote: post #105

Friendly reminder that old.reddit.com is still up. I deleted the app this morning. Maybe old.reddit.com will be a nicotine patch.

There are decent (free and paid) third-party clients that make Reddit a much nicer experience on mobile. On Android I was a big fan of Sync for Reddit, and on iOS I've been using Apollo. Every once in a while I'll open up the official client and I'm just blown away at how bad it is. It's constantly trying to get me to watch livestreams of people doing random things unrelated to my interests. Why would I ever want to…

Apollo is attractive, but being closed source and giving all permissions to a social media account makes me a little nervous. It seems relatively time-tested, but even if the developer is benevolent it increases attack surface area.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by ecshafer »

hbn wrote: post #181
willis936 wrote: post #105

Friendly reminder that old.reddit.com is still up. I deleted the app this morning. Maybe old.reddit.com will be a nicotine patch.

There are decent (free and paid) third-party clients that make Reddit a much nicer experience on mobile. On Android I was a big fan of Sync for Reddit, and on iOS I've been using Apollo. Every once in a while I'll open up the official client and I'm just blown away at how bad it is. It's constantly trying to get me to watch livestreams of people doing random things unrelated to my interests. Why would I ever want to…

It is honestly impressive how bad Reddit's mobile app, and main websites are. Its just so horrendous and so slow and so confusing, and so bad. If you go to a post, its hard to see comments, and if you click in white space it redirects you somewhere almost at random. It takes forever to load anything.

When a million apps are better in every way and the old site is better, its confusing what they are doing over at reddit.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by cloverich »

konschubert wrote: post #143
neutronicus wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, my wife scrolls /r/all, expands posts (some of them text posts), and closes them, possibly clicking into the comments to discuss. If, at any point, she accidentally follows a link, it really pisses her off It's nice to have videos, images, and short articles in a familiar layout I know I'm much more likely to click a recipe link if it's a self-post, because recipes on non-reddit websites always seem to be gated…

> because recipes on non-reddit websites always seem to be gated behind multiple auto playing videos and the author's entire life story Thank SEO for that.

I went down that (thought) rabbit hole and it was a bit sad to realize the cat and mouse game at play, where content creators on sites (such as recipe sites) are optimizing for search results, and intentionally burying the searched for content in a way that the search engine has difficulty optimizing for, so promote their own ads (more scroll -> more ads). Then once people begin obtaining the info they want from said sites, it becomes (presumably) even more difficult for a search engine to automatically filter it out -- or even decide if it should.

I don't know how to solve the problem at scale, but would love a site that preferentially de-ranks content based on the ads it has. That is, rather than me using an ad blocker, I'd like the search engine to do that for me. That probably exists, but then it also has to be as good as Google which isn't easy. I default to duck duck go, but often (say, 10%) I can't find something I am looking for there, go to Google, and its a top 3 result. Tricky set of problems here but I'm optimistic five years from now I may be happier with my search engine of choice.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by CuriousCosmic »

dmm wrote: post #94
alichapman wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can use one of these addons below to always redirect to the old subdomain. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/old-reddit-re... https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/old-reddit-redirec...

Be careful with browser extensions. The edge old reddit redirect extension was malware and because they autoupdate your safety is dependent on the extension author refusing near-daily offers to sell out. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27305638

FYI: On Firefox it's setting dependent and the UX lets you easily decide if you want to use the global setting or set it specific for that extension.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by Akronymus »

the_gipsy wrote: post #157
Akronymus wrote: post #153

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> If, at any point, she accidentally follows a link, it really pisses her off is it partially because new reddit is a SPA that just craps itself when going to a external link and loses where you were?

I have that exact frustration. I now consciously just close reddit.

I have deleted my reddit accounts a few months ago. One of the best decisions.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by eropple »

neutronicus wrote: post #174
alpaca128 wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All problems that are instantly solved by opening links(even within the same site) in separate tabs. One of the many reasons I never use Reddit on the phone. Too bad websites are even making this inconsistent and broken, by using cursed webdesign to a degree that the browser can't figure out if an element is interactive before the user clicks on it.

I disagree The whole point is having everything a) in the context of the feed b) stripped of extraneous crap Opening links in new tabs accomplishes neither of those things

I've never been able to make myself use Reddit, so maybe this is an obvious point, but that sounds like a fairly apocalyptic "whole point" for the exercise of an attention span. Which, I realize, is the goal, but is probably not great for the people thus enmeshed, no?

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by Tokiin »

hbn wrote: post #181
willis936 wrote: post #105

Friendly reminder that old.reddit.com is still up. I deleted the app this morning. Maybe old.reddit.com will be a nicotine patch.

There are decent (free and paid) third-party clients that make Reddit a much nicer experience on mobile. On Android I was a big fan of Sync for Reddit, and on iOS I've been using Apollo. Every once in a while I'll open up the official client and I'm just blown away at how bad it is. It's constantly trying to get me to watch livestreams of people doing random things unrelated to my interests. Why would I ever want to…

Seconding the recommendation for Apollo. It's definitely a shock to get used to at first, but it's so customizable that it reminds me a lot of RES if there was a mobile app version of it.
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