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You saved one keypress on the e but added at least two on the capital letters
Tesla and TSLA both require six keystrokes.
If you’re trading then TSLA is far more natural.
Tesla’s $16k Quote for a $700 Fix Is Why Right to Repair Matters
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Yes, although I think it is about an order of magnitude less of a problem than that. My house runs at 60psi, +/-3psi, and I think it is pretty bog-standard for US plumbing. It's about 11m from the basement to the attic, and still needs decent pressure upstairs, so, yes, 2-5 psi is silly low pressure to worry about - it's only going to be a slow leak even while running, the only problem is if it runs out, for which I…
Wow, 60 psi? Thats like 40 meters of head. So you must be using booster pumps to get the pressure. Never knew this. In India, 99.99% of all homes have gravity flow and static pressure, so except for very tall buildings, no one gets pressure more than 5 - 10 psi.
nah, just one pump. The well is about 518'/158m deep, so the basement +2 stories are kind of a small add-on. I seem to recall most of the bog-standard plumbing bits are rated at 120 or 150 psi.
I just put in some new PEX line extensions and that stuff is rated for 160psi at 74F, 100psi at 180F and 80pis at 200F. (BTW, very good experience installing the PEX, as long one takes care to make clean cuts, it's great - I'm about to go test it for vacuum lines at my shop)
Edit: Plus, I've got to say that it is really cool to get perspectives from all over the world here - India, Norway, and a few other places, just in a few comments - just how differently things are done, and what we each take for granted in our environment.
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If I rent an apartment and the landlord doesn't fix something, I can fix it with my own repairman and charge them the bill. There is nothing special about renting.
If the pipes in an apartment fail, the building won't murder someone on the highway.
Electrical fires, mold, etc etc there is enough things can be dangerous and harmful in an apartment.
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Until it isn't. The attitude about this seems reminiscent of that cable snap in Italy recently. https://youtu.be/uCB1xbkn1Ps And I'm one that is for right to repair, I just don't think it holds up for the lease scenario, I expect my repairs to be done to manufacturers spec and would be concerned about any mechanic for any make making "half arsed" repairs.
There’s a big gulf between “we’re using a common technique that’s regularly used in engines, even though it’s not OEM spec for this specific area” and “we’ve disabled an emergency safety system because it’s not working right”. Trying to equate the two is very disingenuous.
They didn't disable it because it wasn't working right.
They disabled it because they thought they knew better and that the cable would never fail in the way they thought it would.
Spoiler: it didn't.
But: it did in a completely different way they were not aware was possible.
I'm sorry you couldn't see the similarity. Obviously it is a less likely to cause ten deaths scenario, but how do you know it won't?
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#515There's no such right and should not be. It would be a political and legal nightmare if we have every right under the sun you can think of.
Re: Tesla’s $16k Quote for a $700 Fix Is Why Right to Repair Matters
#516When you have economies severely hampered by gov regulations to the point where manufacturers can't make money in a normal way, you will have cases like this. Any industry would look quite different if free market relationships between producers and consumers were in force. The gov. Is only needed to arbitrate their relationships and prevent outright fraud and theft.
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#517Earlier quoted context omitted.
There’s a big gulf between “we’re using a common technique that’s regularly used in engines, even though it’s not OEM spec for this specific area” and “we’ve disabled an emergency safety system because it’s not working right”. Trying to equate the two is very disingenuous.
They didn't disable it because it wasn't working right. They disabled it because they thought they knew better and that the cable would never fail in the way they thought it would. Spoiler: it didn't. But: it did in a completely different way they were not aware was possible. I'm sorry you couldn't see the similarity. Obviously it is a less likely to cause ten deaths scenario, but how do you know it won't?
Again, there is a difference between fixing a non-safety critical system in a non-spec but commonly used way, and completely disabling a safety system.
If they were disabling this car’s airbags or ABS to solve a different issue, this would be a good comparison. But they’re just not the same at all.
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From Merriam-Webster: Definition of collide intransitive verb 1 : to come together with solid or direct impact https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/collide Its a stretch to describe road debris coming together with solid impact to the undercarriage a collision?
Important words in contracts are usually defined in the contract itself. "Collision" is almost certainly defined in any automobile insurance contract you purchase. If you can read code, you can (and should!) read the contracts you sign, especially contracts that could pay you money. Relying on the dictionary alone can mislead you. Here's the pertinent definition from my policy (USAA specifically): "Collision" means t…
I understand words can often have their definitions narrowed and agree people should read their contracts. I tend to irk sales people because I do bother to read all the papers they start throwing my way and start asking questions they've never been asked by the hundreds of customers.
The person I was replying to wasn't referencing any particular contract. They were just speaking generally about hitting road debris being a stretch to define as a collision.
> It's a stretch to describe road debris hitting the undercarriage of a car a "collision".
Seeing as how neither I nor he referenced any particular insurance contract, why would we then bother to use your insurance contract to define the term instead of probably the one shared point between us to define the term (the dictionary)? Why not reference a contract I'll sign with a friend where for the purposes of the contract a collision is defined only as a 5 foot person running into a blue colored wall. I guess a car slamming into a wall isn't a collision anymore since this one contract defines it a different arbitrary way!
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Mate, your talking about a brass nipple being threaded into a broken plastic part to replace a plastic reducer that was [probably] poorly ultrasonic welded in place. What I see in the article is a common sense repair. Anyone who turns a wrench is laughing at the Tesla fanboy pearl clutching over this. Not an attack on your post btw, just a general statement that every Tesla owner comes out of the cracks in these post…
The Gen 1 Tesla Roadster was a license built Lotus Elise. The Lotus Elise had a Toyota motor, the Tesla was all electric, what other Toyota parts are you talking about? Did they also use Toyota accessories?
The roadster was a “glider” (body minus powertrain) built on contract by Lotus, but it was not based on the Elise: it shared only a handful of parts with the Elise.
https://www.tesla.com/blog/mythbusters-part-2-tesla-roadster...
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> Another question to consider is why the repair is 16k. Does is actually cost Tesla that much or do they just quote that much because they are realistically the only ones who can fix it so they can charge the price? The quote is to replace the whole battery pack so I really doubt that they are making a profit on it since it's one of the actually expensive part of the car. As GP pointed out this is hardly right to re…
" The quote is to replace the whole battery pack so I really doubt that they are making a profit on it since it's one of the actually expensive part of the car. " They're also assuming they will get to keep the broken pack. They end up with $16,000 plus anything recoverable from the pack, like the battery cells.
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