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Re: Delta Variant

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Post by enragedcacti » Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 1:45 PM UTC

CPLX wrote: post #4

I have to admit, I'm a little perplexed about all the discussion around the Delta variant. It almost feels like people are discussing this like it's a plot point in a novel, a new looming threat that comes after Act II, rather than a cold scientific fact. As someone who lives in New York and has been vaccinated for months, should I worry about this? It seems like the answer to that question is no, I shouldn't. Also n…

  If you’re vaccinated, you’re mostly safe, especially with mRNA vaccines. Keep your guard up for now, avoid events that might become super-spreaders, but you don’t need to worry much more than that.
  
  If you’re not vaccinated though, this is a much more dangerous time than March 2020. The transmission rate is higher than it used to be, and if you catch Delta, you’re much more likely to die—or get Long COVID. You should be extra careful, only hang out with other vaccinated people, and avoid dangerous events.

You pretty much have it right. As a vaccinated person you probably don't have to take any different actions. You aren't the only person and for unvaxxed people this article might be what they needed to read or what their loved ones needed to read to try to convince them to get vaccinated.

Re: Delta Variant

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 1:45 PM UTC

CPLX wrote: post #4

I have to admit, I'm a little perplexed about all the discussion around the Delta variant. It almost feels like people are discussing this like it's a plot point in a novel, a new looming threat that comes after Act II, rather than a cold scientific fact. As someone who lives in New York and has been vaccinated for months, should I worry about this? It seems like the answer to that question is no, I shouldn't. Also n…

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Re: Delta Variant

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Post by havkom » Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 1:45 PM UTC

”Now, with Delta, it looks like the figures are 64%, 93% and 93% according to Israel, and 79% for symptomatic infection and 96% hospitalization according to the UK.”

I doubt these will turn out to be correct numbers. Looking at recent week’s data in Israel possibly paints another picture (keep in mind while parsing the numbers that there are plentiful many more vaccinated in the population than not in the age groups that gets hospitalized): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kiOrQxOtBg0__IoL...

Nevertheless, it is clear that vaccination helps and is important, but I have doubts about 90+% protection from hospitalization.

Re: Delta Variant

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Post by brutos » Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 1:45 PM UTC

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #2

According to Wikipedia, this variant was first detected in India, in late 2020. If it's that much more infectious than other variants, where was it til now?

Assuming this is actually a genuine question:

Here are the per country ratios of different VOC/VOI: https://covariants.org/per-country

It took a while until it became dominant in India, and then a similar pattern repeats in each new country.

Re: Delta Variant

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Post by ceejayoz » Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 1:45 PM UTC

jsbdk wrote: post #15

cute_boi wrote: post #10

I see the article is well written. The problem is developed countries are doing nothing significant. They think if they vaccinate their population they are good. And they are supplying only some excess vaccines to developing countries which is like drop in bucket. And they are stuck on patents, greediness and all of these thing. I don't think the country where I live will have vaccines till 2023 and people here are a…

>They think if they vaccinate their population they are good. What else do they have to do?

Help get the rest of the world vaccinated, too.

Re: Delta Variant

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Post by jsbdk » Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 1:45 PM UTC

Thaxll wrote: post #16

jsbdk wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't everybody get vaccinated in the US unlike the EU where you have to wait for your turn and can't buy vaccines? That would explain the difference

In the EU for major countries you can get vaccinated any time, it's the same reasons as in the US some people just don't want to.

What major countries? I live in Spain and in most regions people under 30 still can't get vaccinated.

Re: Delta Variant

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Post by herbst » Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 1:46 PM UTC

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #2

According to Wikipedia, this variant was first detected in India, in late 2020. If it's that much more infectious than other variants, where was it til now?

It's all over, and was all over the news early 2021 already. Not sure what you are talking about

(Or which kind of media you consume to come to that conclusion)

Re: Delta Variant

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Post by mchanson » Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 1:46 PM UTC

jsbdk wrote: post #15

cute_boi wrote: post #10

I see the article is well written. The problem is developed countries are doing nothing significant. They think if they vaccinate their population they are good. And they are supplying only some excess vaccines to developing countries which is like drop in bucket. And they are stuck on patents, greediness and all of these thing. I don't think the country where I live will have vaccines till 2023 and people here are a…

>They think if they vaccinate their population they are good. What else do they have to do?

I think the richer countries helping pay to vaccinate the world is a good and smart thing to do.

Re: Delta Variant

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Post by jsbdk » Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 1:46 PM UTC

ceejayoz wrote: post #25

jsbdk wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>They think if they vaccinate their population they are good. What else do they have to do?

Help get the rest of the world vaccinated, too.

Doesn't seem like that's a good idea, since the supply of vaccines is not infinite.

Re: Delta Variant

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 1:47 PM UTC

CPLX wrote: post #4

I have to admit, I'm a little perplexed about all the discussion around the Delta variant. It almost feels like people are discussing this like it's a plot point in a novel, a new looming threat that comes after Act II, rather than a cold scientific fact. As someone who lives in New York and has been vaccinated for months, should I worry about this? It seems like the answer to that question is no, I shouldn't. Also n…

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