The History of Karate
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The History of Karate
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#2"In a Western-style sport, the aim is gaining victory at all costs,”
This statement most resonated with me. I had to give up playing hockey because - at the lowest grade - people paid no respect to you. If they could kick the ball and the ref didn't see it, they would continue play. If they could hit the ball hard at you from point blank, that is fine.
You see similar in elite sport, players in "football" of whatever code. Everyone knows it. A professional player who breaks the rules is expected to play on as if nothing happened until the ref calls it.
At this point it is not a game, it is a grudge match.
The win at all costs mentality costs one themselves.
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#3Growing up, I learned karate. It wasn’t until I met a Kung Fu practitioner that I realized I know nothing Jon Snow. I switched to Kung Fu and never looked back. I still think karate is good because of its structure and competitions but if you are battling yourself, as an art, as a discipline - Kung Fu is king. Great read though. Can’t wait to see it in the games.
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#4In Japan they told me it was based in Korean kemp then had massive development when weapons were criminalised by the government.
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#5Growing up, I learned karate. It wasn’t until I met a Kung Fu practitioner that I realized I know nothing Jon Snow . I switched to Kung Fu and never looked back. I still think karate is good because of its structure and competitions but if you are battling yourself, as an art, as a discipline - Kung Fu is king. Great read though. Can’t wait to see it in the games.
Kung Fu is more a philosophy than a Martial Art. Hence no Kung Fu MMA champions
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#6"In a Western-style sport, the aim is gaining victory at all costs,” This statement most resonated with me. I had to give up playing hockey because - at the lowest grade - people paid no respect to you. If they could kick the ball and the ref didn't see it, they would continue play. If they could hit the ball hard at you from point blank, that is fine. You see similar in elite sport, players in "football" of whatever…
I really don’t see it like that, true athletes aim to be their best and not just win using any dirty trick. Think Usain Bolt for example.
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#7Growing up, I learned karate. It wasn’t until I met a Kung Fu practitioner that I realized I know nothing Jon Snow . I switched to Kung Fu and never looked back. I still think karate is good because of its structure and competitions but if you are battling yourself, as an art, as a discipline - Kung Fu is king. Great read though. Can’t wait to see it in the games.
Kung Fu is more a philosophy than a Martial Art. Hence no Kung Fu MMA champions
No, probably eventually someone will adapt kung fu or wing chun for the octagon. I have criticisms of wing chun (not that I am an expert) but they do intend to be practical.
There were no karate MMA champions for years, and people dismissed taekwondo techniques. Lyoto Machida has had great success coming from a karate background, and so have taekwondo kicks. You can already see people working in wing-chun-style hand traps.
Joe Rogan has some nice commentary on this history.
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#8I was a great believer in karate as a combat sport for many years.
The arrival of MMA proved the true effectiveness of each of the martial arts in an actual combat situation.
Karate has value in combat, but it’s certainly not as effective as I originally thought.
I took my son to do karate training for a year and watched the classes and honestly it seemed pretty worthless to me as a way of learning to fight/defend yourself. Most of the training rituals id say are more akin to tai chi or dancing…. doing katas is pretty much pointless.
We left the karate club.
Most martial arts training seems to me to be tangential to actually training the student to actually win a fight.
If your goal is for your child to learn to fight, then do boxing or kickboxing or Brazilian jiu jitsu.
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#9I was a great believer in karate as a combat sport for many years. The arrival of MMA proved the true effectiveness of each of the martial arts in an actual combat situation. Karate has value in combat, but it’s certainly not as effective as I originally thought. I took my son to do karate training for a year and watched the classes and honestly it seemed pretty worthless to me as a way of learning to fight/defend yo…
I was always under the impression that Karate wasn't particularly useful for combat / self-defense. Krav Maga is the martial art that I've always thought of as actually useful for self-defense.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Kung Fu is more a philosophy than a Martial Art. Hence no Kung Fu MMA champions
No, probably eventually someone will adapt kung fu or wing chun for the octagon. I have criticisms of wing chun (not that I am an expert) but they do intend to be practical. There were no karate MMA champions for years, and people dismissed taekwondo techniques. Lyoto Machida has had great success coming from a karate background, and so have taekwondo kicks. You can already see people working in wing-chun-style hand…
Qi La La has shown that Wing Chun (Wong Shun Leung lineage) does work in the ring. There is a huge difference between Wing Chun schools, but bringing this up is worse than a Vim vs Emacs flamewar so I'll stop right here.