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Re: Why Build Toys

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It sucks how temporary software is, especially Web software. If you don’t pay the hosting bill it’s gone. If you don’t upgrade to 64 but it’s useless. Essentially it’s a plate spinning on a stick and it needs constant attention to survive. Contrast that to a fine piece of furniture which barring fire or flood can just sit abandoned in a warehouse for 300 years and then be even more valuable than it was initially.

I dunno, as someone with a lot of antique furnishings in a 19th-century house, I'd say that there's quite a bit of ongoing maintenance to prevent the march of time and usual wear and tear from grinding everything to dust!

    I met a traveller from an antique land,
    Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
    Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
    Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
    And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
    Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
    Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
    The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
    And on the pedestal, these words appear:
    My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
    Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
    Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
    Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
    The lone and level sands stretch far away.”
Ozymandias by Percy Bysshe Shelley

Re: Why Build Toys

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I'm 46. I have been working in SV since ~1996 I have had several existential crisis wondering *"what the fuck am I doing this for, we produce nothing."* --- This happened to me at FB, SF, Lucas, Brocade... I was like "yeah, im doing well professionally, making money - but at the end of the day, it was just "we produce nothing of intrinsic value" I find it ironic that NFTs are now the version of creating something of…

> we produce nothing of intrinsic value Idk about that. You could say the same about a farmer or a banker or a teacher etc. Even the guys who build the Empire State building - there were probably hundreds of them, each only building a small part - and someday that will get lost in time also. “Intrinsic value” is whatever you define it to be. I guess if you’re working for some ad-sales-management company making softwa…

>>“Intrinsic value” is whatever you define it to be.

The guy who produces one tomato is worth more than the entire team who produces, say a mobile DLC/Gambling/betting game.

CMV

Re: Why Build Toys

#43

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I dunno, as someone with a lot of antique furnishings in a 19th-century house, I'd say that there's quite a bit of ongoing maintenance to prevent the march of time and usual wear and tear from grinding everything to dust!

I met a traveller from an antique land, Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand, Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown, And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command, Tell that its sculptor well those passions read Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things, The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed; And on the pedestal, these words appe…

That's about Ramses II though, and a lot of his statues are still standing.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Luxor_Temple_-_panor...

Re: Why Build Toys

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Exactly. I have a lot of the same feelings, so 6 weeks ago I wrote a similar blog post, "Why I prefer making making useless stuff". I haven't quite figured out how to convert my "useless stuff" into a company yet though... Blog post: https://web.eecs.utk.edu/~azh/blog/makinguselessstuff.html HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27256867 Reddit discussion: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/n…

Here is some useless stuff that I built to learn React. Backend in Spring Boot. https://www.everysportinfo.com/

Re: Why Build Toys

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sucks how temporary software is, especially Web software. If you don’t pay the hosting bill it’s gone. If you don’t upgrade to 64 but it’s useless. Essentially it’s a plate spinning on a stick and it needs constant attention to survive. Contrast that to a fine piece of furniture which barring fire or flood can just sit abandoned in a warehouse for 300 years and then be even more valuable than it was initially.

I'm 46. I have been working in SV since ~1996 I have had several existential crisis wondering *"what the fuck am I doing this for, we produce nothing."* --- This happened to me at FB, SF, Lucas, Brocade... I was like "yeah, im doing well professionally, making money - but at the end of the day, it was just "we produce nothing of intrinsic value" I find it ironic that NFTs are now the version of creating something of…

> I was like "yeah, im doing well professionally, making money - but at the end of the day, it was just "we produce nothing of intrinsic value"

I think it depends on what you work on. For example, I once created a small program to split some file for my mother. She uses it every day at work and saves ~30 minutes of manual work. It's a source of pride for me. She can use that time to work on more substantial things, maybe come out of work earlier sometimes, and in general avoid some mind-numbing work. Many people use computers these days, and by being programmers we have a lot of power in our hands. You can reason that saving a bit of time will amount to nothing in the end, but it usually generates lots of positive feelings.

Re: Why Build Toys

#46

I get disappointed when I see someone build something cool, but maybe not commercializable, and the comments come in asking: “yeah, but how are you planning to monetize it”. 90% of the side projects I embark in are likely to have no commercial value, but are pretty cool, at least I’d like to think.

and the ever-popular snide reply: "you have too much free time on your hands"

There's also the counter-perspective of "wow, you must be rich" which is something I feel (but don't say) when someone has enough free time to build anything frivolous. I work full-time and freelance on the side because I have no financial support system and it's terrifying. I've burnt myself out a couple times and the only reason I kept going was the inevitability of financial ruin.

Re: Why Build Toys

#47

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I'm 46. I have been working in SV since ~1996 I have had several existential crisis wondering *"what the fuck am I doing this for, we produce nothing."* --- This happened to me at FB, SF, Lucas, Brocade... I was like "yeah, im doing well professionally, making money - but at the end of the day, it was just "we produce nothing of intrinsic value" I find it ironic that NFTs are now the version of creating something of…

I'm a little younger than you, so I want to ask this: If it were up to you, alone or with a team you're in charge of, do you think you could come up with a piece of software which would be less ephemeral and more lasting, perhaps being able to work unadministered or requiring minimum administration for a while, and be usable AND useful for years without any major changes? What would it look like, and what would its p…

I LOVE this challenging thought experiment. (I was on "commenting too fast" restrictions (Shakes fist @Dang)...

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With that said - I love this question!

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The premise, as interpreted:

**"A self-teaching application which can adjust behavior and performance with minimal input"**

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Proposal A: [NMAP/PRISM/ETC for AI/ML systems] ((I'd be sure Palantir has this covered...))

This one will be long winded and off-the-cuff based on some work we did with tracking software in the past (people places, things, things-that-kill-people-places-and-things, etc)

I would like an AI awareness layer whereby an AI/ML system can locate adjacent 'other' systems and either silently learn - or actively map/learn etc...

We have had netmon tools for decades. I'd prefer a single firewall device;

I plug it in at home - and its my VPN/PROXY that ALL my familial devices run through. ALL.

So its just a simple VPN etc - all my mobile devices in the family of devices only route through my home device - which in-turn also keeps a small constellation of other nodes several hops out - such that BGP is sorta accomplished - cant get to primary node, go here instead.

I've designed SDNs on mass-fiber btwn HK, JP, Indonesia, Malaysia, etc...

Its doable (this is when Palo Alto Networks was just coming online with their product line...)

Doing this in a manner which utilized AI/ML/etc to more intelligently setup these systems...

Yes I could lead a team that does that....

Lets think this thing out into the zeitgeist and if its lame, then let it die - if it is not lame - then I will work with anyone who may want to explore it?

Re: Why Build Toys

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a little younger than you, so I want to ask this: If it were up to you, alone or with a team you're in charge of, do you think you could come up with a piece of software which would be less ephemeral and more lasting, perhaps being able to work unadministered or requiring minimum administration for a while, and be usable AND useful for years without any major changes? What would it look like, and what would its p…

I LOVE this challenging thought experiment. (I was on "commenting too fast" restrictions (Shakes fist @Dang)... --- With that said - I love this question! --- The premise, as interpreted: **"A self-teaching application which can adjust behavior and performance with minimal input"** --- Proposal A: [NMAP/PRISM/ETC for AI/ML systems] ((I'd be sure Palantir has this covered...)) This one will be long winded and off-the-…

What would the hardware for this look like. Is there anything more to it than two Ethernet ports, storage, RAM, and CPU?

Anything beyond putting together existing components?

Thank you for responding, I am intrigued by your ideas.

Re: Why Build Toys

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I'm 46. I have been working in SV since ~1996 I have had several existential crisis wondering *"what the fuck am I doing this for, we produce nothing."* --- This happened to me at FB, SF, Lucas, Brocade... I was like "yeah, im doing well professionally, making money - but at the end of the day, it was just "we produce nothing of intrinsic value" I find it ironic that NFTs are now the version of creating something of…

Someone who maintains an event space will find that they have to do the same tasks every day and that their hard-fought progress is often destroyed by the very events that they host; meanwhile, even their optimized routines will randomly become obsolete due to changing circumstance of construction, government, and behavior... and yet I don't think it would be fair that they are producing nothing of intrinsic value: t…

the cost of Facebook isn't the software you developed while working there, but (as I like to say) "the lives you destroyed along the way".

Re: Why Build Toys

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I'm not sure about you, but the more experienced I am, as a developer or "builder", the smaller things I end up making. For instance, I launched a bunch of games that are, frankly, more fun to watch, than to play (e.g. an All-hands meeting simulator: https://rafsters.itch.io/all-hands ) or little tools this one https://sonnet.io/posts/reactive-hole/ (it's stupid, completely replaceable, but somewhat adorable). I come…

Out of curiosity, what did you use to make the all hands simulator?
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