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Hyperarchy: Democracy for the Digital Era

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Re: Hyperarchy: Democracy for the Digital Era

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The concept of flexible delegation is really interesting, but what about secrecy of the ballot? Is there any way that can be ensured? The article does not touch on the subject, unfortunately.

Secret ballots are only useful to prevent coercion. Why else would you want your ballot secret?

Because simply having certain beliefs and opinions and making them public can have social and economic consequences.

Re: Hyperarchy: Democracy for the Digital Era

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Or we could use the freedom of information, power distribution, disintermediation and distribution efficiency made possible by the internet to obviate the need for centralized government. I'd vastly prefer that to yet another version of allowing other people to determine my life for me.

It seems to me that that is exactly what this has the potential to do. It's only being framed in the language of centralized government because people might not be ready to deal with the truly revolutionary implications of such a system.

Re: Hyperarchy: Democracy for the Digital Era

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Or we could use the freedom of information, power distribution, disintermediation and distribution efficiency made possible by the internet to obviate the need for centralized government. I'd vastly prefer that to yet another version of allowing other people to determine my life for me.

It seems to me that that is exactly what this has the potential to do. It's only being framed in the language of centralized government because people might not be ready to deal with the truly revolutionary implications of such a system.

Not if anyone is still bound by the decisions of the majority.

Re: Hyperarchy: Democracy for the Digital Era

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Secret ballots are only useful to prevent coercion. Why else would you want your ballot secret?

Because I might be turned down for a job or apartment or loan because of my political views ? And because it's frankly nobody else's business how I vote ?

Voting is an inherently public, civic act. It's not a personal matter. Your vote has a direct effect on lots of other people. Why shouldn't you be accountable for that?

Re: Hyperarchy: Democracy for the Digital Era

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The concept of flexible delegation is really interesting, but what about secrecy of the ballot? Is there any way that can be ensured? The article does not touch on the subject, unfortunately.

Secret ballots are only useful to prevent coercion. Why else would you want your ballot secret?

Only? Isn't that enough of a reason?

Re: Hyperarchy: Democracy for the Digital Era

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems to me that that is exactly what this has the potential to do. It's only being framed in the language of centralized government because people might not be ready to deal with the truly revolutionary implications of such a system.

Not if anyone is still bound by the decisions of the majority.

Just because people are bound by the decisions of the majority doesn't mean it's centralized. They may decide that the cost of sometimes having to abide by group decisions that conflict with their individual preferences is outweighed by the benefit of being part of a group with an optimal decision-making process that (presumably) provides benefits to its members that they would not get if they chose to remain unaffiliated. All the while remaining decentralized.

Reading http://nickbostrom.com/fut/singleton.html totally altered the way I look at this.

Re: Hyperarchy: Democracy for the Digital Era

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because I might be turned down for a job or apartment or loan because of my political views ? And because it's frankly nobody else's business how I vote ?

Voting is an inherently public, civic act. It's not a personal matter. Your vote has a direct effect on lots of other people. Why shouldn't you be accountable for that?

You should review the history behind secret voting for a list of reasons why secret votes are considered a good thing.

Re: Hyperarchy: Democracy for the Digital Era

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This is a terrific concept, but it's also too important to be relegated to a private web site. Until the software can be run as a local application (perhaps as part of a mutually-corroborated P2P network) and its internal workings made fully verifiable, this is merely another fancy web-based-UX demonstration.

Re: Hyperarchy: Democracy for the Digital Era

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I am always reminded of the Athenian state, and how the vagaries of public opinion swung its direction wildly and rapidly.

A stable -archy needs to have an inherent conservatism to prevent public hysteria (cough MSM cough) yanking the direction around.

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