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Handwriting is better than typing when learning a new language, study finds

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Re: Handwriting is better than typing when learning a new language, study finds

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I wonder if the benefit of handwriting is diminished if the student is using a tablet that converts each handwritten word into text as it is written? Is the benefit just in the act of writing? Does the act of seeing your own handwritten text on a page/screen reinforce the learning?

I wonder this too - I know that I learn much more rapidly and the knowledge "sticks" when I handwrite notes but just anecdotally, I feel like the effect is "lessened" when I handwrite digital notes.

I know for me, writing on a page forces me to commit to a spacial organization for the information— partitioning it into lists, leaving blank lines where I think there's going to be more to add, drawing arrows and connections and so on.

Digital notes don't have any of those constraints, so I don't have to be nearly as disciplined about it. But counterintuitively, this doesn't generally lead to me going back and "cleaning up" my digital notes into a properly organized reference; instead it just stays a garbled mess.

Kind of like how I can't do cardio as its own activity, but I'll happily commit to an 8km year round bike commute. I can only get the benefit when it's a forced side effect of something else.

Re: Handwriting is better than typing when learning a new language, study finds

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post #40

I can believe it. I firmly believe the brain acts very differently between typing and handwriting. I make stupid mistakes all the time when I type. Not misspelling, but those easy there/their/theyre type mistakes. I think it's because I'm just mindlessly trying to express my opinion as fast as possible. I don't write nearly as much as I type, but I've never made such a mistake when writing. Somewhere between the slow…

This is an original thought to me.

I wonder how grammar evolves now that most language is typed rather than handwritten.

Re: Handwriting is better than typing when learning a new language, study finds

#53
I think the benefit here is that handwriting forces you to be parsimonious. You simply cannot mindlessly transcribe words onto a page as fast as you can type onto a screen.

As a result, you have compress the information into a distilled format - this requires understanding. If you're just typing - transcribing really - you are not forced to understand, only touch type.

If this is the actual mechanism - that handwriting forces you to understand - then I have also have an alternative which includes typing.

That is, "take notes twice."

I always have a transcribed set of notes (anything which could possibly be relevant), and then a "curated" set which compresses the relevant and tosses the irrelevant. Yes, it takes more effort; yes, it takes more time. That is the cost of understanding. Personally I've found this to work better for me than handwriting.

Re: Handwriting is better than typing when learning a new language, study finds

#54
I have better results with handwritten note-taking during dev work than digital. I have a pile of multicolored spiral bound notebooks on my desk that I use for clients/projects. Save a few pages in the beginning of each book for misc/table of contents.

Re: Handwriting is better than typing when learning a new language, study finds

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post #40

I can believe it. I firmly believe the brain acts very differently between typing and handwriting. I make stupid mistakes all the time when I type. Not misspelling, but those easy there/their/theyre type mistakes. I think it's because I'm just mindlessly trying to express my opinion as fast as possible. I don't write nearly as much as I type, but I've never made such a mistake when writing. Somewhere between the slow…

I think there’s a certain “muscle memory” involved. When you’re writing a word by hand you have to think about each letter, however briefly, as you write it: “w-o-r-d”. But when you’re typing a word you don’t think about each letter so much as you think about the pattern your fingers need to make, if that makes sense?

It’s like when someone asks what the keyboard shortcut is to take a screenshot. Uh, I don’t know? I use it all the time and I couldn’t tell you if I’m hitting control or command or option because the underlying inputs don’t really matter. I only need to know the pattern my fingers are supposed to make and so that’s all that gets committed to memory.

Re: Handwriting is better than typing when learning a new language, study finds

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I wish they would do studies like this with children / teenagers. In an adult, handwriting is going to be ingrained in their brain because they have been doing it their whole life. It is a part of the language processing their brain does, and it makes sense that tapping in to that helps their brain learn faster. I want to see if the same is true for children who type way more than they handwrite. Is there something i…

> I wish they would do studies like this with children / teenagers.

They have. I don't have said studies in front of me. But the gist of it seems to be that typing is a quicker lower process skill (pushing a button), where as handwriting is a slower higher intensive process, (thinking about the letters you write).

My opinion is that physical note taking, when not transcribing, requires you to process the information you are given, then summarizing it in your own words. With the benefit of handwriting being that you have more time to process the information.

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