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It's actually pretty simple: have FSD do a regular driving test. If it can pass that it's good to go, if not it fails the test and will not be allowed to control a vehicle.
I don't understand how something this broken is allowed to operate on public roads. If I drove like Tesla's FSD seems to based on the videos I've seen, I'd be pulled out of my car and arrested on (well founded) suspicions of "driving while hammered." After a decade of work, it's not capable of doing much beyond "blundering around a city mostly without hitting stuff, but pay attention, because it'll try to hit the mos…
You would think that just the name "Tesla Full Self Driving Beta 9.0" would be giving people some pause here.
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Wait till you read the stats and see videos of what humans driving cars regularly do!
Still, an autopilot should aim to be a peer with the best drivers, not with mediocre or bad drivers.
I don't understand how something this broken is allowed to operate on public roads. If I drove like Tesla's FSD seems to based on the videos I've seen, I'd be pulled out of my car and arrested on (well founded) suspicions of "driving while hammered." After a decade of work, it's not capable of doing much beyond "blundering around a city mostly without hitting stuff, but pay attention, because it'll try to hit the mos…
The monorail video is jaw-dropping. Nine versions in, I would expect ongoing challenges with things like you mention. But continued failure to even see large, flat obstacles is no longer something that needs to be fixed – that it has persisted this long (even after killing someone as in the case of T-boning a semi trailer at highway speeds) is an indictment of the entire approach Tesla has been taking to FSD. I used…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Still, an autopilot should aim to be a peer with the best drivers, not with mediocre or bad drivers.
It's a limited beta with the goal of discovering error cases.
Many of the comments here seem a bit... unfair to me, considering that these clips were handpicked. I watched (and fast-forwarded) through a few of the original, full-length videos from which these clips were taken. The full-length videos show long drives (in some cases, hours long) almost entirely without human intervention, under conditions explicitly meant to be difficult for self-driving vehicles. One thing I rea…
Also, the fact that they're distributing safety critical software to the public as a 'beta' is just insanity. How many more people need to die as a result of Autopilot?
Question: Would it be awesome if FDA allowed Pharma to conduct drug-tests like this? Put a "beta-2.9" on the vial and let people try it out... Some may die, be disabled or may linger in vegetative state life-long, but it was their choice afterall and the it can argued that medicinal side-effects are very small cause of mortality and hence long-term the "public beta tests" will make drugs more effective and save more…
If you're asking whether that would be awesome if it lead to pharmaceutical innovations I think it would.
Many of the comments here seem a bit... unfair to me, considering that these clips were handpicked. I watched (and fast-forwarded) through a few of the original, full-length videos from which these clips were taken. The full-length videos show long drives (in some cases, hours long) almost entirely without human intervention, under conditions explicitly meant to be difficult for self-driving vehicles. One thing I rea…
One of the questions I've repeatedly had regarding FSD (and Tesla's approach in particular) is the notion of memory. While a lot of these scenarios are disturbing, I've seen people wavering on lanes, exits and attempting to turn the wrong way onto one-way streets. People have memory, however. If we go through the same confusing intersection a few times, we'll learn how to deal with that specific intersection. It seem…
My thoughts exactly. I've made those mistakes myself, many times. I guess I sort of assumed that Tesla would do three things: - Record the IRL decisions of 100k drivers. - Running FSD in the background, compare FSD decisions with those IRL decisions. Forward all deltas to the mothership for further analysis. - Some kind of boid, herd behavior. If all the other cars drive around the monorail column, or going one direc…
It appears Tesla FSD just ignores things it doesn't understand, which is really dangerous in a production vehicle.
The vehicle is production but this particular software is not, it's a private beta and not available to the general public.