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Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Post by Clewza313 »

onion2k wrote: post #103
Clewza313 wrote: post #29

> Third, a lot of Pichai's big bets have failed: Google Glass, Google Plus, Google Wave, Project Loon Every single one of these predates Pichai, who only became CEO in 2015: * Google Wave was already turned down in 2012 * Google Plus launched in 2011 and the writing was on the wall by 2015 * Google Glass consumer edition was discontinued in Jan 2015 before Pichai started * Loon is the only arguable exception; it was…

Pinchai joined Google in 2004, and was "Product Chief" prior to becoming CEO. He's been responsible for a lot of Google products.

His leadership roles were in Chrome, Gmail and Android, not any of the four products mentioned.

Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Post by dkdk8283 »

sanity31415 wrote: post #122
dkdk8283 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Join G and masquerade as a zealot and you will soon be invited to off-campus chat networks where employees strategize how to cancel the next “asshole” on their radar. It’s sickening and they should all go to jail for it.

Can you elaborate?

Happy to if you present a specific question.

Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Post by benreesman »

I’ve never met a person inspired by what we thought the Internet would be in the 90s who isn’t sad that it went the way it did. I suspect the more idealistic of the cryptocurrency people will also feel nostalgic when Goldman and JP Morgan run blockchain in a few years.

It’s extremely tempting, especially to technical people, to believe that some piece of technology will create net freedom and equality.

The reality is more mundane: technology is just a fancy word for tool, and the only thing the guillotine ever freed anyone from was tomorrow.

Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Post by ConceptJunkie »

snowwrestler wrote: post #78

Does anyone think that Google cares about the free and open Internet anymore? I don’t mean they oppose it, I just mean it doesn’t seem like it’s on the list of things the company prioritizes. It sometimes seems like Google’s internal self-image is stuck in 2001, when they were an idealistic search engine company whose goal was to organize the world’s information. Today they are an ad company, running some office apps…

> I don’t mean they oppose it,

They do. They want an Internet where they control the flow of information.

Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Post by perfect_wave »

dkdk8283 wrote: post #132
sanity31415 wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you elaborate?

Happy to if you present a specific question.

What kind of methods do they use to go about “cancelling the asshole”? What information are they accessing that they shouldn’t be? What kind of tooling are they misusing to do this?

What are the results of their actions?

Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Post by [deleted] »

jeffbee wrote: post #38
Consultant32452 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When they hide data you're obviously and explicitly looking for they are making the internet less open. Look at the google vs duckduckgo search results for this: "How a Convicted Terrorist used the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Website to Identify Targets"

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Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Post by Consultant32452 »

jeffbee wrote: post #38
Consultant32452 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When they hide data you're obviously and explicitly looking for they are making the internet less open. Look at the google vs duckduckgo search results for this: "How a Convicted Terrorist used the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Website to Identify Targets"

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I don't believe there's anything I or anyone else could say that would change your mind.

Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Post by ConceptJunkie »

the_biot wrote: post #121
est wrote: post #72

As a casual website owner, I find Google is the main culprit. My original articles were buried under content farms full of copypastas. Lots of my URLs were either "Discovered – currently not indexed" or "Crawled - currently not indexed", but spam sites are happily searchable with the exact same content. And I don't want spend to fight SEO.

But you blame Google, not the SEO spammers?

SEO spammers are exploiting a flawed system created by... Google.

Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Post by WA »

cromwellian wrote: post #126
argvargc wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google is literally the only tech giant with an interest in the open internet. This statement is an oxymoron. "Tech giants" hobble the open principles of the internet by their own existence, persistence and, by-definition, over-bearing influence. Any entity genuinely concerned with preserving open principles would seek to limit its growth far-prior to where Google is now, and eliminate the pervasiveness of its infl…

If there is no open internet, there is nothing to index or organize. If anything Apple has does more harm than anyone to the Web by pushing the idea of native apps for everything served from a closed proprietary App Store that you can’t even side load around.

You can index and organize billions of AMP pages.

You can index and organize the content of an intranet of every large organization.

Re: Sundar Pichai warns of threats to internet freedom

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Post by iratewizard »

encryptluks2 wrote: post #116
bluthund wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you guys factor the deplatforming they do into this or are you not aware that they are heavily involved in censorship on their platforms

Let me guess.. you're a huge fan of Tim Pool and the likes who constantly talked about how they are oppressed WHILE still on YouTube.

Let me guess... You're not a huge fan of free speech because your college professor told you it was an outdated concept WHILE still using it as a shield to spew his moronic views.
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