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The Web Is Eating the Desktop (2017)

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Re: The Web Is Eating the Desktop (2017)

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I don't know how well thought this article is, due to a number of use-cases where desktop apps dominate (high performance, GPU, extreme latency sensitivity), and I don't see that changing. I think we are more likely to see some stratification between different types of apps.

Re: The Web Is Eating the Desktop (2017)

#5
I think this is probably true, but I kind of hate it. It's such a staggering waste of computing resources. I don't know, maybe we can get to the point where these apps that include an entire browser are highly optimized but it's still kinda nuts.

Re: The Web Is Eating the Desktop (2017)

#6
Why is the post focusing exclusively on desktop?

> The last five applications I installed are Electron apps.

The last few companies I've worked at made their mobile apps using React Native[1].

> In ten years nearly every desktop app that isn't over ten years old will be a progressive web app or a containerized (e.g. Electron) web app.

Some of the apps I have installed on my phone are progressive apps, one of those decided to promote their PWA over App Store / Play Store because they didn't want to share revenue with Apple/Google, the revenue issues with mobile stores have been in the news a lot recently, I wouldn't be surprised if this became more common in the future.

[1] worth noting I'm not a mobile dev so my own skillset doesn't have anything to do with how those companies make their apps.

Re: The Web Is Eating the Desktop (2017)

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When there was a single platform (Windows), native made sense as either way it was one codebase. You now need to support at least two desktop platforms and some computers now only support web stuff (Chromebooks).

The only argument for native is if resources are such that make a web app impractical for most people (high performance GPU intensive stiff). Otherwise, sure, Electron isn't that efficient and takes up relatively a lot of space, but we are at the point where space and RAM are abundant, so it is not a limiting factor for most people.

Re: The Web Is Eating the Desktop (2017)

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post #6

Why is the post focusing exclusively on desktop? > The last five applications I installed are Electron apps. The last few companies I've worked at made their mobile apps using React Native[1]. > In ten years nearly every desktop app that isn't over ten years old will be a progressive web app or a containerized (e.g. Electron) web app. Some of the apps I have installed on my phone are progressive apps, one of those de…

React Native is much more native than Electron, though. There’s no “web” involved in React Native. It just happens that the language (JavaScript) is also used by the web platform.

Re: The Web Is Eating the Desktop (2017)

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> I took the post offline after about a week because I received among other things DDOS attacks and frothing at the mouth e-mails including one sent from a throwaway e-mail that actually made threats of physical violence against myself and my family. What is wrong with people? It’s not like he wants crappy Electron w/Javascript to replace desktop with all its flaws! He acknowledges the main issues for webapps and proposes solutions.

OP, if you’re reading this, I’m sorry you had to go through that.

EDIT: misread. Still doesn’t justify any of the hate.

Re: The Web Is Eating the Desktop (2017)

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I’m not sure one will eat the other. The two will converge. The technologies typical of desktop apps like GPU acceleration, type safe languages, AoT compilation, multithreading etc - all of those things have rather recently moved from being somewhat or entirely desktop exclusive, to being on the web.

With novel means of deploying sandboxed apps the line will continue to blur.

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