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Indian state proposes two-child policy, stringent measures for violators

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India's fertility rate has already fell to about 2.2 children per woman (in 2021). That's already replacement rate. India is one of the few countries with a favorable demographic future right now. The United States and France are also doing ok too (with immigration). But most of Europe and Asia (especially China, Singapore, South Korea and Japan) are facing huge problems: a halving of the population from its peak. An…

How do you factor climate change into this long term outlook?

Re: Indian state proposes two-child policy, stringent measures for violators

#12

India's fertility rate has already fell to about 2.2 children per woman (in 2021). That's already replacement rate. India is one of the few countries with a favorable demographic future right now. The United States and France are also doing ok too (with immigration). But most of Europe and Asia (especially China, Singapore, South Korea and Japan) are facing huge problems: a halving of the population from its peak. An…

You can't compare india's situation with other countries.

SouthIndia has replacement rate below 2. The hindi belt is still trending 2.3+

The above legislation is introduced in a Uttar Pradesh, which is still overpopulated when compared to other states.

The legislation wont work at country level, but i have susupicions if it works at state level.

Awaiting for more details.

Re: Indian state proposes two-child policy, stringent measures for violators

#13
post #2

I can't read the article, so I'm just replying to the concept. I don't see a problem with this at all. Overpopulation may be the most important issue of our lifetime. I'm not a fan of excessive government control, but incentivizing low birthrates is our only hope of saving the environment.

incentivizing sterilisations seems like a slippery slope for a democracy.

next step is having more than 2 kids will wreck your credit score and this kid will be denied higher education. this is some text book china shit.

Re: Indian state proposes two-child policy, stringent measures for violators

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India's fertility rate has already fell to about 2.2 children per woman (in 2021). That's already replacement rate. India is one of the few countries with a favorable demographic future right now. The United States and France are also doing ok too (with immigration). But most of Europe and Asia (especially China, Singapore, South Korea and Japan) are facing huge problems: a halving of the population from its peak. An…

I don't understand why a population decrease should be resulting in "huge problems". I am sure it's possible to maintain or even increase happiness and relative wealth while growing smaller.

For earth in total, it would be great to see a smaller number of humans.

Re: Indian state proposes two-child policy, stringent measures for violators

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post #4

But we can't have the alternative that's worked everywhere that's tried it: educating Women. If that happened the pervasive corruption might be questioned. Instead we'll just kill the extra children.

Two thoughts,

1) educating women must take at least ten years to show up in birth rates

2) women with fewer children might have an easier time educating themselves & getting the snowball going

Re: Indian state proposes two-child policy, stringent measures for violators

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India's fertility rate has already fell to about 2.2 children per woman (in 2021). That's already replacement rate. India is one of the few countries with a favorable demographic future right now. The United States and France are also doing ok too (with immigration). But most of Europe and Asia (especially China, Singapore, South Korea and Japan) are facing huge problems: a halving of the population from its peak. An…

I don't understand why a population decrease should be resulting in "huge problems". I am sure it's possible to maintain or even increase happiness and relative wealth while growing smaller. For earth in total, it would be great to see a smaller number of humans.

who pays for all the old people?

Re: Indian state proposes two-child policy, stringent measures for violators

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post #2

I can't read the article, so I'm just replying to the concept. I don't see a problem with this at all. Overpopulation may be the most important issue of our lifetime. I'm not a fan of excessive government control, but incentivizing low birthrates is our only hope of saving the environment.

Climate change and population growth are separate issues.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand why a population decrease should be resulting in "huge problems". I am sure it's possible to maintain or even increase happiness and relative wealth while growing smaller. For earth in total, it would be great to see a smaller number of humans.

who pays for all the old people?

Isn't it a classic rate equation? If all young people die immediately, sure, we're in deep shit. But with increasing productivity and improved health care a graceful decrease should be possible.

Re: Indian state proposes two-child policy, stringent measures for violators

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India's fertility rate has already fell to about 2.2 children per woman (in 2021). That's already replacement rate. India is one of the few countries with a favorable demographic future right now. The United States and France are also doing ok too (with immigration). But most of Europe and Asia (especially China, Singapore, South Korea and Japan) are facing huge problems: a halving of the population from its peak. An…

The fertility rate of the state in question might be more relevant here which seems to be about 3.0 [0].

These conversations miss the fact that the actual distribution of the people in the country is very relevant. If you have ever been to UP, you would know how it is overflowing with people.

0. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_and_union_ter...

Re: Indian state proposes two-child policy, stringent measures for violators

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post #4

But we can't have the alternative that's worked everywhere that's tried it: educating Women. If that happened the pervasive corruption might be questioned. Instead we'll just kill the extra children.

Why would that cause corruption to be questioned?
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