we'll show those jerks that hacking people's voicemail is unacceptable... by hacking their CMS.
Hacking a dead girl's voicemail and lying about it to the police is not the same as hacking the CMS of the assholes responsible for it.
LulzSec Redirects ‘The Sun’ Homepage To Fake Murdoch Death Story
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Re: LulzSec Redirects ‘The Sun’ Homepage To Fake Murdoch Death Story
#72News International (NWSA) lost about 5% of its stock value today, and with a special session of the UK Parliament on Wednesday all bets are off - if Cameron is badly damaged enough, the Lib Dems could pull out of the government on principle leading to a snap election, although I would give that only a 20% chance of happening. Murdoch is probably doomed; unless he pulls a rabbit out of a hat at the Parliamentary commi…
> if Cameron is badly damaged enough, the Lib Dems could pull out of the government on principle leading to a snap election, although I would give that only a 20% chance of happening. I'd say the chances of that are more like 0.2%. Most of the crap that went on was under Blair and Brown.
Cameron's problem is that he hired former NoTW editor Andy Coulson to be his press secretary, and Coulson was forced to resign last January because of these hacking reports.
Not only did he apparently approve of and even commission hacking while a newspaper editor, he hired a private investigator who had been jailed for trying to plant drugs on other people (to create a newspaper scandal) and who later turned out to be an axe murderer. I don't mean that as a figure of speech; the fellow murdered his business partner with an axe. Now coulson did not know this was going to happen when he hired him, but Cameron (or at least his chief of staff) apparently knew about it before hiring Coulson and decided that he would make a fine addition to the team anyway, desite his extremely dodgy social circle. Add in the fact that Cameron has had a meeting with Murdoch or one of his top lieutenants on average every 2 weeks since becoming PM, at either 10 Downing Street or at Chequers (the PM's official country house, like Camp David for the President), and he looks uncomfortably close to a bunch of rather villainous people.
Remember that Cameron is governing as part of a coalition with the Liberal Democratic party, who are allied with him by necessity rather than by choice. If they pull out and Cameron loses a vote of confidence in Parliament, the government falls.
Re: LulzSec Redirects ‘The Sun’ Homepage To Fake Murdoch Death Story
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
> if Cameron is badly damaged enough, the Lib Dems could pull out of the government on principle leading to a snap election, although I would give that only a 20% chance of happening. I'd say the chances of that are more like 0.2%. Most of the crap that went on was under Blair and Brown.
Cameron's problem is that he hired former NoTW editor Andy Coulson to be his press secretary, and Coulson was forced to resign last January because of these hacking reports. Not only did he apparently approve of and even commission hacking while a newspaper editor, he hired a private investigator who had been jailed for trying to plant drugs on other people (to create a newspaper scandal) and who later turned out to…
You're high.
Employing someone who 10 years ago may have engaged in some, or known about dodgy journalistic tactics is hardly much to write home about.
Of course he had meetings with execs from NewsCorp. They own a bunch of newspapers! Blair and Brown did exactly the same.
It sounds like you'd like the government to fall. I don't think most people in the country would.
I think most people are thoroughly bored of this 'scandal' about a bit of corruption that happened 10 years ago. There's more important news out there. Like the collapse of the Euro.
Re: LulzSec Redirects ‘The Sun’ Homepage To Fake Murdoch Death Story
#74It would have been a little more convincing if they'd bothered to use an apostrophe: Media Mogul's Body Discovered. Not to nitpick, but you want a media prank to work, you need to think like media people. They wouldn't forget punctuation.
That's the thing that is bugging me the most as well.
Re: LulzSec Redirects ‘The Sun’ Homepage To Fake Murdoch Death Story
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cameron's problem is that he hired former NoTW editor Andy Coulson to be his press secretary, and Coulson was forced to resign last January because of these hacking reports. Not only did he apparently approve of and even commission hacking while a newspaper editor, he hired a private investigator who had been jailed for trying to plant drugs on other people (to create a newspaper scandal) and who later turned out to…
You're high. Employing someone who 10 years ago may have engaged in some, or known about dodgy journalistic tactics is hardly much to write home about. Of course he had meetings with execs from NewsCorp. They own a bunch of newspapers! Blair and Brown did exactly the same. It sounds like you'd like the government to fall. I don't think most people in the country would. I think most people are thoroughly bored of this…
>Of course he had meetings with execs from NewsCorp.
He had Christmas dinner with Rebecca Brooks, he had a secret meeting with Murdoch on a private yacht before the election. There are meetings and then there are meetings.
Re: LulzSec Redirects ‘The Sun’ Homepage To Fake Murdoch Death Story
#76From Twitter:
"@thecoldgun It's like having a psycho mercenary on your side in a fight - you worry what they'll do when they're not."
Re: LulzSec Redirects ‘The Sun’ Homepage To Fake Murdoch Death Story
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're high. Employing someone who 10 years ago may have engaged in some, or known about dodgy journalistic tactics is hardly much to write home about. Of course he had meetings with execs from NewsCorp. They own a bunch of newspapers! Blair and Brown did exactly the same. It sounds like you'd like the government to fall. I don't think most people in the country would. I think most people are thoroughly bored of this…
>Of course he had meetings with execs from NewsCorp. He had Christmas dinner with Rebecca Brooks, he had a secret meeting with Murdoch on a private yacht before the election. There are meetings and then there are meetings .
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Re: LulzSec Redirects ‘The Sun’ Homepage To Fake Murdoch Death Story
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
> if Cameron is badly damaged enough, the Lib Dems could pull out of the government on principle leading to a snap election, although I would give that only a 20% chance of happening. I'd say the chances of that are more like 0.2%. Most of the crap that went on was under Blair and Brown.
Cameron's problem is that he hired former NoTW editor Andy Coulson to be his press secretary, and Coulson was forced to resign last January because of these hacking reports. Not only did he apparently approve of and even commission hacking while a newspaper editor, he hired a private investigator who had been jailed for trying to plant drugs on other people (to create a newspaper scandal) and who later turned out to…
The problem, as I see it, isn't the dodgyness, it's that the Lib Dems needs cover to back a vote of no-confidence. A vote of no confidence in a government you're part of is a big deal. If they vote no-confidence on the grounds that Cameron had meetings (even meetings) and no hard evidence, then the only thing Cameron needs to do to absolutely end the LDs is to demonstrate how Labour also had meetings (News Intl were behind Labour in all the Blair elections). Heck, Murdoch might just do him the favour and dump the minutes himself on the way out.
Also, LDs are in plenty of trouble with their base. They swallowed tuition rises but are willing to fire the PM over being too nice to Rebekah Brooks? Tuition affects pretty much everybody who will go to university or who wants their children to go to university. Loose ties to repulsive, illegal behaviour at at newspaper everybody already knows to be the scum of the earth affects comparatively no-one.
Finally, Coulson was working for Cameron when the coalition was set up. How does it play to be fine with that, and then suddenly be against some meetings on a vague principle?
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cameron's problem is that he hired former NoTW editor Andy Coulson to be his press secretary, and Coulson was forced to resign last January because of these hacking reports. Not only did he apparently approve of and even commission hacking while a newspaper editor, he hired a private investigator who had been jailed for trying to plant drugs on other people (to create a newspaper scandal) and who later turned out to…
You're high. Employing someone who 10 years ago may have engaged in some, or known about dodgy journalistic tactics is hardly much to write home about. Of course he had meetings with execs from NewsCorp. They own a bunch of newspapers! Blair and Brown did exactly the same. It sounds like you'd like the government to fall. I don't think most people in the country would. I think most people are thoroughly bored of this…
"I think most people are thoroughly bored of this 'scandal' about a bit of corruption that happened 10 years ago. There's more important news out there."
Nope. It's more to do with the fact that it's a scandal exposing just how corrupt and cosy the british power elites are. "A bit of corruption 10 years ago" is somewhat akin to Al Capone going down on tax evasion
Re: LulzSec Redirects ‘The Sun’ Homepage To Fake Murdoch Death Story
#80we'll show those jerks that hacking people's voicemail is unacceptable... by hacking their CMS.
why, that's almost as hypocritical as stopping enemy soldiers from shooting at you by... shooting at them!