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Instagram Has Become SkyMall

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Re: Instagram Has Become SkyMall

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"hey, do you ever find it a huge hassle to pour cereal from a box?" Just like the Snuggie, many of these products were invented to help people with various disabilities. See e.g. https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2018/9/20/17791354/products-pe...

Can you show me a snuggle ad with a disabled person in it

Can you show me any ad with a disabled person in it?

Re: Instagram Has Become SkyMall

#132

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I’m using the app on iOS if that makes a difference…

You might be using one of those tabs that I never go to. The leftmost tab with the home icon only shows posts from people you follow (and ads).

That’s not true. It forces reels on you now (maybe feature flagged?), all kinds of random people you don’t follow. Instagram has become a hot mess.

Re: Instagram Has Become SkyMall

#133
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Yes, it is possible to do things ass- backwards. The first way is better for consumers, the second way exploits consumers at a subconscious level, and is more often leveraged to maximize profit than to benefit consumers. E.g., Imagine all the good pharmaceutical research that could be funded if we just allowed blatant snake oil to be sold for unlimited profit? Surely the ends justify the means? Corporations trend tow…

> Imagine all the good pharmaceutical research that could be funded if we just allowed blatant snake oil to be sold for unlimited profit? Head into your nearest pharmacy and check out what they sell. Aisles upon aisles of homeopathic "drugs" that do nothing and cost nothing to produce.

> Aisles upon aisles of homeopathic "drugs" that do nothing and cost nothing to produce.

Homeopathics only reliably do nothing (different from whatever inert carrier is provided) if they are real homeopathic dilutions, which thanks to the absence of regulation and testing in the homeopathic market, they often are not, which has led to homeopathics with dangerous levels of ingredients that would be Which, I guess, doesn't contradict your point.

Re: Instagram Has Become SkyMall

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It's interesting how this exposes the dynamics of ad-space. Advertisements as points in a metric space A. Clicking ads as a contractive mapping C:A->A. Class-action lawsuit ads as a fixed point in A when iterating C. This must imply something interesting about human psychology or ad economics, or both. Why does the fixed point end up as class action suits and not something else? It's not what I would have expected.

Why is clicking ads a function from the space of ads to the space of ads? Why is it a metric space? Why is it a contraction?

I should have been more specific - what I meant is that the ads that instagram chooses to show you can be thought of as points in ad-space. So when you click on ads and instagram chooses to show you different ads as a result, you have traveled around in this space. I say the space is metric because it is meaningful to say that two ads are more or less similar. I assume the "click all ads" mapping is contractive because if you take two different people with different histories of clicking ads and therefore different flavors of ads shown to them, and they both just start clicking on all ads regardless of content, the ads they both see after doing this should be more similar, or closer in ad-space. So iterating this should just get to a point where they see the same ads (or at least ads that are progressively similar)

Re: Instagram Has Become SkyMall

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So if you see an ad about something, you never recommend it. Sounds like you let advertising influence you quite a bit.

Sure, if you're going to insist on an overly literal reading of my words.

Advertising is mental pollution. Reacting against it isn’t the same thing as being influenced to consume what they’re hocking.

Re: Instagram Has Become SkyMall

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Is there anyone else out there who refuses to buy something if they first learned about it from an ad?

Depends on the ad - if it's excessively irritating or intrusive absolutely. To the point where I'll boycott entire stores if an ad pisses me off too much. Tangentially, youtube's ads are getting worse by the day and Hero Wars' efforts are now so damned desperate that they've gone beyond deliberately misleading to damned near pornographic. It's bad enough that I'm considering completely dropping Google despite the ina…

It would very much be worth it to dump GMail and purchase a privacy-focused email service with IMAP/POP3

Re: Instagram Has Become SkyMall

#137
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Is there anyone else out there who refuses to buy something if they first learned about it from an ad?

Advertising works at a subconscious level. The more you see a product, the more you subconsciously learn to like and trust the product, especially if you are being exposed to that product in a trusted context (popular celebrity posing with it, etc). I wish I had saved the link, but I read a study that showed people consistently underestimated how likely they were to buy a product after seeing an ad. They would buy it…

It’s especially true of me when I’m making a purchase where I don’t already have a favorite brand. I know I gravitate towards the most familiar thing, which may be the deodorant brand I saw a friend using (true story).

Re: Instagram Has Become SkyMall

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Which principle?

Not rewarding the awful ad-tech ecosystem is a good principle.

I don't think you can say this in general. I really, really dislike ads, but they _do_ sponsor a lot of content creators which could otherwise not focus on their content creation and they help companies to get their product known to you - which does not need to be a negative. If they sell you a product which genuinely improves your life, it's a win-win-win for you, the producer and the person advertising.

The current ecosystem is overly focused on manipulation and there are simply to many ads, yes, but I have found really good products via ads and I don't think companies should be generally demonized just for playing the game. It's not all bad.

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