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Instagram Has Become SkyMall

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Re: Instagram Has Become SkyMall

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post #44

The ads, like on YouTube, are getting unbearable. And this time you can’t even block them

Why can't you block them?

Presumably using the app?

The thing I hate most is if I click on search it starts autoplaying some random thing that has no relevance to my social circles, until I start typing my search query (usually just trying to find a friend or an account I already follow).

Re: Instagram Has Become SkyMall

#53
post #30

I would just like to take this opportunity to post these screenshots I took over the past 2 days: https://imgur.com/a/SLrJaUJ I am surprised by just how many ads for drugs I get. They know their audience. But still. Lots of ads for testosterone, growth hormone, and now ketamine.

i've never seen those ads before. aren't instagram ads tailored based on your browsing history? if anything, those ads may just be indicative of your recent interests.

What could I possibly have posted that would trigger these ads?

Oh.

https://imgur.com/a/CXvySpa

(Like I said. They know their audience.)

Re: Instagram Has Become SkyMall

#54
post #19

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Absolutely. If I see an ad for something I make a mental note to search for competitors before buying that brand, assuming I need the product. If a company is spending money on ads, that’s money they’re not spending on R&D or cutting prices, and it also means their product is too weak to get traction organically.

> If a company is spending money on ads, that’s money they’re not spending on R&D or cutting prices, and it also means their product is too weak to get traction organically. Or they just want to make even more money than they could make organically, which they can then put into R&D or into cutting pricces (through economies of scale).

Yes, it is possible to do things ass- backwards. The first way is better for consumers, the second way exploits consumers at a subconscious level, and is more often leveraged to maximize profit than to benefit consumers.

E.g., Imagine all the good pharmaceutical research that could be funded if we just allowed blatant snake oil to be sold for unlimited profit? Surely the ends justify the means?

Corporations trend toward consumer exploitation and as they get bigger, there is less chance for any human concerns like ethics or morals to correct negative behavior.

Re: Instagram Has Become SkyMall

#55
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why can't you block them?

Presumably using the app? The thing I hate most is if I click on search it starts autoplaying some random thing that has no relevance to my social circles, until I start typing my search query (usually just trying to find a friend or an account I already follow).

I generally assume that installing an app to use a website is voluntarily opting in to a worse experience, so you're probably right. Still, though, maybe a PiHole would be effective?

Re: Instagram Has Become SkyMall

#56
post #47

Ok, so I'm going to hijack this slightly... I'm an elderly (mid-40s) non-USian techie, and I've never done Instagram. On Facebook I mostly follow people I've largely lost touch with in real life (particular these past couple of years), and on Twitter it's news sources and journalists, plus a selection of 'celebs' from various niche interests like tech, sci-fi, winter sports and comedy. Am I likely to be missing anyth…

I follow a few artists on it. It's good for when you want to see what people are making without the kind of chatter you get on Facebook or Twitter.

Re: Instagram Has Become SkyMall

#57
post #40
post #34

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Advertising works at a subconscious level. The more you see a product, the more you subconsciously learn to like and trust the product, especially if you are being exposed to that product in a trusted context (popular celebrity posing with it, etc). I wish I had saved the link, but I read a study that showed people consistently underestimated how likely they were to buy a product after seeing an ad. They would buy it…

> still assert that they were aware of the ad and not allowing it to influence their decisions. The claim you're responding to is not that they won't allow it to influence their decisions, but that they will actively refuse to even consider a product if they learned about it through an ad. Most of the ads I encounter are through podcasts because I don't watch TV and ad blockers of various kinds apply everywhere else.…

Which principle?

Re: Instagram Has Become SkyMall

#58

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> If a company is spending money on ads, that’s money they’re not spending on R&D or cutting prices, and it also means their product is too weak to get traction organically. Or they just want to make even more money than they could make organically, which they can then put into R&D or into cutting pricces (through economies of scale).

Yes, it is possible to do things ass- backwards. The first way is better for consumers, the second way exploits consumers at a subconscious level, and is more often leveraged to maximize profit than to benefit consumers. E.g., Imagine all the good pharmaceutical research that could be funded if we just allowed blatant snake oil to be sold for unlimited profit? Surely the ends justify the means? Corporations trend tow…

> Imagine all the good pharmaceutical research that could be funded if we just allowed blatant snake oil to be sold for unlimited profit?

Head into your nearest pharmacy and check out what they sell. Aisles upon aisles of homeopathic "drugs" that do nothing and cost nothing to produce.

Re: Instagram Has Become SkyMall

#59
post #56
post #47

Ok, so I'm going to hijack this slightly... I'm an elderly (mid-40s) non-USian techie, and I've never done Instagram. On Facebook I mostly follow people I've largely lost touch with in real life (particular these past couple of years), and on Twitter it's news sources and journalists, plus a selection of 'celebs' from various niche interests like tech, sci-fi, winter sports and comedy. Am I likely to be missing anyth…

I follow a few artists on it. It's good for when you want to see what people are making without the kind of chatter you get on Facebook or Twitter.

Agree with this, I'm a big fan of sci-fi and high-fantasy art, and follow a great deal of amazing artists on IG, there's more than a couple of great space paintings in my living room that I saw on the site, contacted the artist and offered to buy a print from. That and of course seeing friends in their own necks of the woods is what makes the platform for me.

Re: Instagram Has Become SkyMall

#60

Is there anyone else out there who refuses to buy something if they first learned about it from an ad?

I buy things from ads if the things solve problems I have. Sometimes I don't know about the solutions and the advertising works because FB/Insta know what I like. They work well and I'm grateful I get relevant ads.
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