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But the point is that Apple Maps also has the commute suggestions without the privacy cost
As long as you're using a cellular network, you're trackable, no? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFns39RXPrU
I’m curious - does anyone reading this agree with the notion that Apple maps is becoming comparable to Google maps? I haven’t given it a fair shot in almost a decade I guess, and it was almost unusable then. Does anyone here use it as a daily driver? What are the strong and weak points?
Apple Maps is quite good if you use it one of the major US cities… but it’s still weak in most other places. As a European customer, Google maps have more up to date information, better traffic data, public construction information etc.
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I tried Apple Maps again recently to drive to my daughter's school half an hour away. Despite it stating that the destination was indeed that school, I ended up in a residential street over 3 miles away. The carplay interface of it also wasn't as easy to follow as on Google Maps - which is surprising.
I tried apple maps 2 years ago just because my android died and my wife pulled out her iphone. It was on a tahoe trip to ski, we happened to hit a snowstorm that day. Apple Maps decided to optimize the route and suggested a better route through a friggin road that passed rather close to a ski station (could even look the name up). We had a 4x4 and we were fine for the most part, but things got really bad when descend…
I think you’re significantly overestimating Apple’s AI efforts if you think that’s shocking.
Google, maybe they’re smart enough to pull that off today, but I’d be surprised.
However, I’m notoriously bad at predicting future tech, so what do I know.
Google maps >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apple maps here in Europe especially for medium sized cities (in big cities apple works fine but still a lot worse then google). For me it seems like fair exchange to give some data, for free and very good service that have no real competition :)
Apple has been creating their own map data and switching over to it for a while now.
North America is complete and Europe is just starting with the UK finished and online and the Iberian Peninsula just coming online a month ago.
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Google Maps took me down all sorts of goofy unpacked backroads in Crete this past month. It’d cut the driving distance in half and double the driving time. Although my Fiat Panda rental did surprisingly well on uneven, unpaved roads.
I had the same experience even in Santa Clara County. Google maps led me to drive on unpaved roads along the farms near Gilroy in order to avoid the congested 101. It's not worthwhile, and I'd argue Google should expose an option to let me express my preference.
Being able to express your preference isn't what Google is all about. Their attitude is that they know best.
I’m curious - does anyone reading this agree with the notion that Apple maps is becoming comparable to Google maps? I haven’t given it a fair shot in almost a decade I guess, and it was almost unusable then. Does anyone here use it as a daily driver? What are the strong and weak points?
Spoken directions in Apple Maps are unmatched. "Go past this stop sign, then at the light, turn right on X Avenue" - it's exactly how you would expect human directions. Google Maps is absolutely worst in class, behind all competitors I have ever used, in spoken directions. Here is a very common Google Maps direction from where I live: "In 300 feet, keep left toward Alabama 231 South / Alabama 431 South / Memorial Par…
Argh, don't you just love that. Hey, dumbasses: if I knew which way was east, I wouldn't have needed to ask you!
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Really? In my experience (Europe, mostly France/Italy), OpenStreetMap has a lot more details than Google on “long-term features”: roads, (hiking) paths, public toilets and fountains, etc; while Google is a lot better for POIs and restaurants/bars/museums/etc. On a given street, OSM will have the exact position of every tree but not so much about restaurants, while with GM you get their opening hours, ratings, menus,…
In brand new neighbourhoods, I've also found OSM much better than Google Maps. E.g., lots of new developments in Cambridge were extremely well annotated whereas Google Maps didn't even have streetnames. This is super helpful when you are shopping for a new property.
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OpenStreetMap >>>>>>>>> Google maps pretty much everywhere in EU (and RoW). I had better data in Harz, Bohemian Switzerland, Girona, Laos, Indian jungles etc which was way better than what Google provides. I would rather give my data to the qualitatively better option OSM than a controversial foreign firm that has questionable stance on user privacy.
OSM doesn't seem to have public transportation data which makes it useless unless you exclusively use a car.
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Well, Google doesn't operate services in China so is not giving data to China. If you look carefully in the TOS for your Apple products, you'll see that iCloud data (including like messages) are operated by Apple with the exception of China, where they are operated by a third-party contractor who does the dirty work of complying with Chinese government speech laws/police requests. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/t…
Interesting. I didn't realize Google did not operate any services in China. I thought the Chinese government filtered certain services that they didn't have the ability to censor.
Google Maps will still give you very basic maps in China, but at least in both Beijing and Shanghai the maps are unusable unfortunately.
You're correct that they are blocked by China. The reason they are blocked is because they haven't built a censored version of their search and don't provide China with data from emails, etc. - this is in contrast with Apple's approach. I don't know where it falls on censorship, since Apple isn't in the search business, but my guess is you would notice differences in Siri's behavior (for instance).