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“One Day Longer and Those 13 Boys Would Be Dead”

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Post by nradov »

muthdra wrote: post #24
tpmx wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Musk wrote that tweet about a separate UK diver. Still, this Finnish diver did show remarkable restraint here.

I respect Musk more than many commenters you see around. I understand he's not the billionaire savior many people seem to believe. I remember him mentioning something about how the sub couldn't go wrong because if the kids got there and the water rose, it should get where the kids were. How feasible was it, really?

It was never even remotely feasible. Musk's design was simply too large to fit through the restrictions in the cave. It's the kind of nonsense that only someone with no real diving experience could come up with.

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Post by arcticbull »

lilSebastian wrote: post #25

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Yea haha I was going to remind folks of that too. Elon was building a submarine that everyone involved told him was a terrible idea and to please leave them alone because he was hampering the effort, and Elon responded by calling one of the lead rescuers a “pedo guy” and got sued over it.

I believe his defense was that “pedo guy” was a common insult in South Africa.

Simpler times haha.

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Post by hef19898 »

dehrmann wrote: post #37
krapp wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon Musk is a grown man, not a child, and he should be capable of tact and self control. "He started it" is not a valid excuse for his public, slanderous little temper tantrum.

Musk actually won the defamation case because--my words--you can't take anything he says seriously.

Ah, the Tucker defence!

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Post by busterarm »

hef19898 wrote: post #43
dehrmann wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Musk actually won the defamation case because--my words--you can't take anything he says seriously.

Ah, the Tucker defence!

Correction, the Rachel Maddow defense.

You have to pick the person to use it first.

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Post by fab1an »

The most harrowing thing I have read in a long time. I can't even begin to fathom the immense bravery of these divers - and that of the boys. I didn't really follow the Musk bit of the story, but the fact that he had the audacity to shitpost about any of these guys make me think vastly less of him (and I'm usually in the Musk-respecter camp)

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Post by skhr0680 »

goodcanadian wrote: post #27
chha wrote: post #8

There is a couple of other stories that comes to mind, unfortunately both of them were about recovering the dead. "Raising the Dead" is about the accidental discovery of a diver in SA, and the recovery efforts there. [1] "The cave divers who went back for their friends" is about a trio of finns who went back into a Norwegian underwater cave system to recover two friends who got stuck and died there. [2] [1] - https:/…

This one is more a story of dumb luck, but there was a case of a crew member surviving for 2.5 days in an air pocket in his sunken ship: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-africa-25205914 He was discovered by divers hired to investigate the sinking and recover the bodies.

That video is classic. My favorite part is when the diver sees the man and “mission control” thinks the diver is panicking from seeing a corpse and tries to get him to calm down, then the swearing while they’re trying to figure out what to do.

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Post by janci »

I still don't get it. The tunnels were too narrow near the ceilling, but wide near the floor. The divers could not keep at the floor because they could not navigate due to zero visibility, zero communication and no tether points.

Would not a sonar help? A full spacesuit-like helmet with air to be able to talk via radio? Laying down some flexible tunnels that could be inflated with air or maybe just pumped with clear water to gain visibility? So many ideas come to mind, but they chose the most difficult transport of sedated and tied up kids ever. I assume they had a good reason, but still do not understand it.

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