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Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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Post by bmeski »

Clubber wrote: post #109
jdkdkfmdm wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah it also seems like he didn't give in to the fear and went about his life as best as he could. He went to the dentist early in lockdowns. My social circle would've cast you out for that and it is for sure a smaller circle than it was in March 2020 because of media provided moral imperatives that if you didn't follow week to week, you were no better than a Republican Actually, it eventually made me Republican.

Really it was a lose-lose situation. Ignore it and you stack bodies in a freezer truck like in NYC. Lock down and a lot of your businesses no longer exist. Hopefully we're done with it for the next 100 years.

The next “thing” will happen in 20 years. 9/11 -> Covid -> (whatever 2040 cooks up for us to make sure the next generation lives in fear)

Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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Post by Clubber »

kristofferR wrote: post #28
tboyd47 wrote: post #20

There aren’t any measurable elements of personality that are fixed. Personality changes as you age. I’ve witnessed a reversal in each of the Myers-Briggs markers in the past 15 years (from INTJ to ESFP) — not intentionally, but that’s just the way my life played out. I’ve come to see the truth of the matter like this: every human being has a need for socializing, but it takes effort and is exhausting. The amount of e…

Agree! One of the most harmful beliefs about the concept of intro-/extroversion is that it is something you are and not something you do. Many people limit themselves massively because of how they've labeled themselves. Especially in "strong introverts", the label is often used as a convenient excuse for not going through the often painful process of trying to improve their confidence skills and social skills. "I'm a…

So I go back and forth. Sometimes I'm an extrovert, like when I've had a few beers and at a party. Sometimes I'm an introvert. For extroverts, socializing is like air, they need it to feel healthy (or to live in some cases). For introverts, socializing is like water. You can swim in it or tread water, but it takes effort and you tire quickly. Sure it can be refreshing sometimes, but it wears you out and you don't wanna do it every day.

That's about the best way I can sum it up for how it works in my mind.

Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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Post by WarOnPrivacy »

Our introvert family mostly enjoyed lockdown but we are six adults who get on very well with each other. We also really appreciated months of less traffic and fewer people at the store.

However, had our work been impacted, it would have been a very different experience. What did hit us was this year's 99% housing shortage (our rental was sold). Although we beat the very long odds, it was the most terrifying thing I've ever experienced.

Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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Post by WarOnPrivacy »

jasode wrote: post #94
kristofferR wrote: post #83

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You seem overly attached to the label of being an introvert. The whole post is slightly confusing to me in fact. If you've concluded that other things than increasing social skills are more worthwhile pursuits for you in your life, then that's great. You do you. However, you can't then also complain in the next breath about what your lack of social skills, that you won't spend an effort acquiring, exclude you from. "…

>You seem overly attached to the label of being an introvert. I didn't downvote your comments but as counterpoint, I think you and tboyd47 are too influenced by the idea that "introvert" is merely a label. Yes, I understand the good intentions for stressing the "label isn't destiny!" -- because we always want people to improve. That said, I'm an introvert because that's currently the best description of my stable tra…

This is very familiar to me. I can work a room but when that's done I want to be gone.

Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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Post by bluefirebrand »

kristofferR wrote: post #28
tboyd47 wrote: post #20

There aren’t any measurable elements of personality that are fixed. Personality changes as you age. I’ve witnessed a reversal in each of the Myers-Briggs markers in the past 15 years (from INTJ to ESFP) — not intentionally, but that’s just the way my life played out. I’ve come to see the truth of the matter like this: every human being has a need for socializing, but it takes effort and is exhausting. The amount of e…

Agree! One of the most harmful beliefs about the concept of intro-/extroversion is that it is something you are and not something you do. Many people limit themselves massively because of how they've labeled themselves. Especially in "strong introverts", the label is often used as a convenient excuse for not going through the often painful process of trying to improve their confidence skills and social skills. "I'm a…

Introversion has nothing to do with social skills or confidence. Being an introvert is not the same as being shy or awkward.

Introversion is a measure of what effect socializing has on you, and how comfortable you are being alone.

Extroverts dislike being alone, Introverts like it. Extroverts feel energized by social interaction, Introverts feel drained by it.

That's it. I'm tired of these ignorant "Introverts are just socially awkward and if they just went out more they would be cured" type takes.

Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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Post by QuesnayJr »

tboyd47 wrote: post #20

There aren’t any measurable elements of personality that are fixed. Personality changes as you age. I’ve witnessed a reversal in each of the Myers-Briggs markers in the past 15 years (from INTJ to ESFP) — not intentionally, but that’s just the way my life played out. I’ve come to see the truth of the matter like this: every human being has a need for socializing, but it takes effort and is exhausting. The amount of e…

I think one of the reasons psychologists reject Myers-Briggs is because it's not unusual for your results to change from test to test. The test that they prefer (the Big 5), does have introversion versus extroversion as one of its axes, though.

Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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Post by [deleted] »

Zababa wrote: post #43

One thing that's not mentionned: a lockdown means you're constantly spending time with the people you live with. That means almost no more moments where you're alone in your home. I know that I get irritable after some time when we go for a family vacation and spend all our time together, because I need some time for myself and some control over my actions. I've never heard about agency in the context of introvert/ex…

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Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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Post by WarOnPrivacy »

colanderman wrote: post #71
ineedasername wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What were the long lines for?

Occupancy of things like grocery stores was limited, but people still needed to go to them. Many had long lines out the door. (Reference point: suburb of Boston)

Ours were the opposite. Stores emptied out and we could shop comfortably.

Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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Post by chownie »

archsurface wrote: post #92
Angostura wrote: post #41

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I've read this several times, but I'm nit actually clear what you are accusing the BBC or the government of. It's reasonable to call the first even from March 2020 a 'lockdown'. The rules in the UK were pretty clear - unless you are a keyworker don't leave your house apart from essential shopping or 1 hour of local excercise. Since then restrictions have been eased in what can probably best be described as partial lo…

How clear the rules are is irrelevant - they were theoretical, an occasional example made, but no one really gave a damn. If you followed those rules you're a gullible sucker, most people were in the parks drinking and socialising.

What universe are you in? April 2020 lockdown left the streets in Manchester dead for the first and only time I've ever seen, I think you might be revising history a bit
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